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Re: Detents Posted by Justin VanAbrahams [Email]

(#32) [Profile/Gallery] (more from Justin VanAbrahams) on Thu, 21 May 2015 14:38:13

In Reply to: Re: Detents, BobS, Thu, 21 May 2015 11:12:45 Members do not see ads below this line. - Help Keep This Site Online - Signup

The nature of the design has actually been the subject of a lot of discussion, because it does *not* meet the design criteria originally set forth. At some point the design was compromised, and at some point the design was corrected.

What is interesting is how everything went down - IIRC GM's position is that one engineer was responsible for the bad design, the corrected design, and the subsequent coverup. That guy took a beating. Another position is that the design was compromised, the engineer found the problem, brought the problem to the attention of others, nothing was done, and he took matters into his own hands to correct it. Yet another theory is that the engineer is just GM's scapegoat, and he's off living somewhere with a fat settlement to keep his mouth shut.

We'll never know the truth of the matter - way too many layer of bureaucracy buried by too many years. But core fact is that the part was incorrectly designed, subsequently corrected, a bunch of warnings were swept under the rug, and GM did not issue a timely recall. The details are probably moot.

But the takeaway is: The GM Plunger Detent Debacle has absolutely nothing in common with any Saab ignition switch ever made ever. :D

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takata airbag recall, pete , Tue, 19 May 2015 21:22:25
- Please don't feed the trolls., Erik919kt, Wed, 20 May 2015 16:50:34
- There's no such thing as Saab, Muffin top, Wed, 20 May 2015 05:21:00
  - Saab airbags are made by Autoliv in Sweden, B Millar , Wed, 20 May 2015 06:24:19
    - Re: Saab airbags are made by Autoliv in Sweden, Muffin top, Wed, 20 May 2015 07:55:50
      - you had one "incident" in your 9-5 (which nobody else, AeroEd, Wed, 20 May 2015 09:40:12
        Re: you had one "incident" in your 9-5 (which nobody else, Muffin top, Wed, 20 May 2015 10:15:52
        Re: you had one "incident" in your 9-5 (which nobody else, Justin VanAbrahams , Wed, 20 May 2015 11:29:14
        Re: you had one, Muffin top, Wed, 20 May 2015 12:41:17
        Re: you had one, Snowmobile , Thu, 21 May 2015 07:06:22
        Re: you had one "incident" in your 9-5 (which nobody else, mike33, Wed, 20 May 2015 11:39:18
        Re: you had one "incident" in your 9-5 (which nobody else, Muffin top, Wed, 20 May 2015 12:47:31
        Re: you had one, Justin VanAbrahams , Wed, 20 May 2015 14:14:37
        Re: you had one, Muffin top, Wed, 20 May 2015 14:36:16
        A Blog..., PGAero , Thu, 21 May 2015 10:43:47
        Re: you had one, Justin VanAbrahams , Wed, 20 May 2015 15:03:11
        Re: Detents, BobS, Thu, 21 May 2015 11:12:45
        Re: Detents, Justin VanAbrahams , Thu, 21 May 2015 14:38:13 <-- Viewing This Message
  - Saab's best sales were under GM. nm, Norm9-5, Wed, 20 May 2015 05:39:29
    - Re: Saab's best sales were under GM, Muffin top, Wed, 20 May 2015 06:00:29
      - Re: Saab's best sales were under GM, Scott Paterson , Wed, 20 May 2015 10:00:33
        Re: Saab's best sales were under GM, Muffin top, Wed, 20 May 2015 10:48:35
        The Opel obstacle? nm, Norm9-5, Thu, 21 May 2015 12:37:52
- It's a Japanese thing..., Norm9-5, Wed, 20 May 2015 04:08:44
- Re: takata airbag recall, NJWayne, Wed, 20 May 2015 03:04:07

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