OK, this is starting to stray way off topic, but I just couldn't let this post pass unaddressed. The statement that Bush is a businessman at heart is a scary one - if true than his heart is in worse shape than Cheney's. GWB has NEVER been responsible for a business success. He ran an oil company into the ground, until a group of daddy's friends bailed him out with a sweetheart buyout deal. They, in turn, were able to make the company quite successful. The other big "success" story GWB often claims is the Texas Rangers. There are several flaws with GWB claiming the Rangers as a success. First, he was a figurehead "owner". He actually "owned" less than 1% of the team IIRC. In any case, his share was well under 50%. Second, this is the same Rangers team that, despite throwing huge amounts of money at players, never even went to the World Series, let alone win one. Third, the business success of the Rangers that allowed them to be sold for a huge windfall profit was almost solely the result of a public investment in building a new stadium for the team and then turning over almost all revenues from the stadium to the team in the lease deal.

GWB may be a lot of things, but he's certainly no one that any thinking human being should be taking business advice from.

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• SAAB in Dire Straits -, Ian Glenday , Mon, 18 Nov 2002 22:02:56
  • Using an Opel Vectra's chasis didn't help things..., Street, Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:31:15
    • Not an Opel Chassis. Its a global GM chassis., Terraplanem, Thu, 21 Nov 2002 18:16:11
    • I've read that the engine isn't smooth..., Ter(Europe), Wed, 20 Nov 2002 03:11:37
    • Not a British Platform ---, Ian Glenday , Tue, 19 Nov 2002 18:47:45
      • I don't think Top Gear was blowing the Opel horn., Terraplanem, Wed, 20 Nov 2002 17:17:15
    • Re: Using an Opel Vectra's chasis didn't help things..., GM, Tue, 19 Nov 2002 16:44:49
  • Botched 9-3SS Launch, Sieglo, Tue, 19 Nov 2002 12:57:30
    • Yes, sad launch but I think they can pull it together., KB88900T, Tue, 19 Nov 2002 23:00:51
    • True. I wonder what the delay is/was about?, Terraplanem, Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:50:23
      • It was planed. you don't launch your high prefomance, OHMSS, Tue, 19 Nov 2002 17:08:48
        • New Audi A4 launched with a 3.0...., Sieglo, Wed, 20 Nov 2002 10:19:32
  • Re: SAAB in Dire Straits -, lowbar, Tue, 19 Nov 2002 12:12:26
  • The news made it sound worse but I seriously doubt, Gary, Tue, 19 Nov 2002 11:59:55
  • Debra Kelly-Ennis, JBinMD, Tue, 19 Nov 2002 11:52:04
    • Excellent point JBinMD! n/m, Redmilk, Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:51:15
  • Re: SAAB in Dire Straits -, jp, Tue, 19 Nov 2002 10:37:32
  • New Restructing Plan Called "VIGGEN", Redmilk, Tue, 19 Nov 2002 10:12:27
    • Re: New Restructing Plan Called "VIGGEN", dtech, Tue, 19 Nov 2002 11:30:07
    • Re: New Restructing Plan Called "VIGGEN", MJP, Tue, 19 Nov 2002 10:22:52
      • Re: New Restructing Plan Called "VIGGEN", Redmilk, Tue, 19 Nov 2002 10:52:17
  • Here's Autoweek's article:, Rick, Tue, 19 Nov 2002 09:38:02
  • The worst part about this is:, Redmilk, Tue, 19 Nov 2002 09:37:43
    • True that! Saab dealers are awful!, Terraplanem, Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:01:31
      • Re: True that! Saab dealers are awful!, dtech, Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:36:16
  • production problems?, Pete Saab 9-5, Tue, 19 Nov 2002 09:19:18
    • It is difficult to retool, especially when a GM is, Terraplanem, Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:05:22
  • here is the news link, Rollmo, Tue, 19 Nov 2002 08:41:51
  • When I once read that GM had given SAAB the boot,, StanleyB, Tue, 19 Nov 2002 01:12:19
  • "they are not cutting back on any new models", Rafe, Tue, 19 Nov 2002 00:51:03
  • Re: SAAB in Dire Straits - another link to story, Rod'899kT, Tue, 19 Nov 2002 00:28:35
    • Somtimes you guys are like a sewing circle ..., J, Tue, 19 Nov 2002 00:46:24
      • It's good for Saab to cut out the dead wood., KB88900T, Tue, 19 Nov 2002 01:06:40
        • Bush announced cutting 800,000+ jobs, carneykjnc, Tue, 19 Nov 2002 08:58:55
          • I agree with his privatization of parts of the gov., KB88900T, Tue, 19 Nov 2002 20:49:20
          • But he 'publicized' airport screening right?, saw, Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:00:53
          • Re: Bush announced cutting 800,000+ jobs, AJRitz, Tue, 19 Nov 2002 10:11:13 <-- Viewing This Message
            • Bravo!, RS , Tue, 19 Nov 2002 10:27:45
  • SAAB News Release that Tells of Changes --, Ian Glenday , Mon, 18 Nov 2002 23:24:25
  • How can they cut back jobs if they can't meet, KB88900T, Mon, 18 Nov 2002 22:52:32
    • "Non-essential" as in people who were under-qualified, J, Mon, 18 Nov 2002 23:08:37
  • 9-3SS should solve the losses once and for all. n/m, J, Mon, 18 Nov 2002 22:26:49
    • I'm Going to buy an Arc As Soon As I Can n/m, Ian Glenday , Mon, 18 Nov 2002 22:36:57
      • Only if you want a second car. You're not going to ..., J, Tue, 19 Nov 2002 00:50:32
        • After Seeing 9-3SS at SOC02 I Just Had to, Ian Glenday , Tue, 19 Nov 2002 01:13:46

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