Redirector,

You obviously like Saab and I obviously like my BMW better after owning 3 Saabs. So, that is fine.

But, when buying cars over $35,000, one starts to look at other things besdies HP stats and space. If that were the only criteria, we could all go out and buy Ford Crown Vic V-8's with the Police Pack for $25,000. That is bang for the buck and for another $5000 I could have a supecharger and better suspension installed. The Ford has a larger trunk and back seat than the Saab.

To me the BMW feels like a better package. My 530 is far superior to the 1999 9-5LPT that I had. And, I prefer the 530 to an Aero. Sure the Aero is faster, but how fast do you need? I think that the 530 is a nicer car than the 540 anyhow; it steers better and the engine is smoother and sounds nicer.

I have driven the 9-5 2.3lpt and the 525 as rentals in Europe on the motorways at very high speeds for long periods of time. At high speeds the BMW feels better , it is quieter and is more stable in crosswinds. The Saab has more torque, but the BMW has a nice throttle response at high speeds. There is no real difference in gas consumption. If I had a choice I would be driving a 530 Diesel if it were offered in the USA.

Have you driven a 2002 530i? For how long? Where you able to push the car hard or was the sales guy with you? Did you ask for a price quote? I did drive the Saab Aero 4 times by myself. I drove a total of about 100 miles by myself. I got a very good price of about $36,000. But I liked the BMW better and it will not depcreciate as fast as the Saab. So, the BMW cost about $42,000 loaded and to me the $7,000 was worth the difference. (that would buy 116 bottles of your precious Barolo ) I do not feel like I was fleeced.

So, what is with your smart ass remarks about my negotiating and spending habits? Get a life. You do not even know me. I did not attack you personally, so please just calm down and remember this is a discussion forum. Would you say those things to my face if we were talking to each other? I think not. Besides, I think you are silly for buying $60 bottles of wine; what a waste. If you cannot find a $12-$20 bottle of wine that you can enjoy, then you are a sucker and should be looking at your own spening habits. And besides, if you can afford $60 bottle of wine, why are you even discussing the price difference between a Saab and a BMW? Or are you just a Poseur that likes to say the word "Barolo" to impress people?

So you started the flame war and I will stop now as I am sure that you will get the last word anyhow. Enjoy your Aero; it is a nice car, better than what most people will ever drive. But I stand by my statements that I made in my earlier post.

-Doug


-Doug


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• Why Saab is better than BMW - At least to me!, PaulD, Mon, 28 Jan 2002 10:49:57
  • Re: Why Saab is better than BMW - At least to me!, J, Sun, 8 Sep 2002 15:56:36
  • Re: Why Saab is better than BMW - At least to me!, Doug, Tue, 29 Jan 2002 07:59:03
    • My problem with BMW..., Bob M, Tue, 29 Jan 2002 13:52:32
    • Re: Why Saab is better than BMW - At least to me!, Lou, Tue, 29 Jan 2002 10:01:58
    • An Aero for $43k? $US? Then you didn't even try!, redirector, Tue, 29 Jan 2002 09:43:28
      • Re: An Aero for $43k? $US? Then you didn't even try!, Andrew gay, Wed, 30 Jan 2002 10:11:44
        • Try Canada, stevec, Wed, 30 Jan 2002 22:19:04
      • Re: An Aero for $43k? $US? Then you didn't even try!, Doug, Tue, 29 Jan 2002 13:49:24
        • Re: An Aero for $43k? $US? Then you didn't even try!, Raymond, Wed, 30 Jan 2002 15:54:59
          • Raymond, my 3 Cents worth.., Doug, Wed, 30 Jan 2002 21:53:25
            • Doug re: your 3 Cents worth.., Raymond, Thu, 31 Jan 2002 14:28:36
            • Sorry, screwed up link to crash test, Doug, Wed, 30 Jan 2002 21:55:37
        • You Are right On The Money, PaulF, Wed, 30 Jan 2002 02:20:40
          • "on the money"... that is, if you have the money, redirector, Wed, 30 Jan 2002 10:43:28
      • Re: An Aero for $43k? $US? Then you didn't even try!, Doug, Tue, 29 Jan 2002 11:14:10 <-- Viewing This Message
        • If I offended you, Doug, I am sorry., redirector, Tue, 29 Jan 2002 12:41:28
          • Re: If I offended you, Doug, I am sorry., Doug, Tue, 29 Jan 2002 17:30:13
            • Re: If I offended you, Doug, I am sorry., John, Wed, 30 Jan 2002 09:30:01
              • Re: If I offended you, Doug, I am sorry., Doug, Wed, 30 Jan 2002 22:42:49
                • What's wrong with the guages?, Ron H, Wed, 30 Jan 2002 23:27:26
                  • Re: What's wrong with the gauges?, Ron H, Wed, 30 Jan 2002 23:28:34
                    • spelling errors (need to learn how to type), Ron H, Wed, 30 Jan 2002 23:29:32
            • My problem with BMW, David G. Mills, Tue, 29 Jan 2002 20:13:58
      • $35000 for an Aero? Last month? Really? Where?, BernieC, Tue, 29 Jan 2002 10:51:02
        • Re: $35000 for an Aero? Last month? Really? Where?, NewSaabOwner, Tue, 29 Jan 2002 11:11:01
          • Re: $35000 for an Aero? Last month? Really? Where?, BernieC, Tue, 29 Jan 2002 11:43:33
            • Re: $35000 for an Aero? Last month? Really? Where?, redirector, Tue, 29 Jan 2002 12:02:54
    • I agree with you completely, or almost completely..., TKC, Tue, 29 Jan 2002 08:49:23
  • As much as I like BMWs M3 and M5s and so on..., Coolknight, Tue, 29 Jan 2002 05:50:31
    • Some answers...., Plasticman, Tue, 29 Jan 2002 12:13:19
      • Re: Some more answers...., Ed in NC, Tue, 29 Jan 2002 12:51:34
  • You will all hate me for this...a BMW perspective, Plasticman, Mon, 28 Jan 2002 18:03:53
    • Some corrections to your list!, VIKINGMAN, Wed, 30 Jan 2002 15:45:08
    • Plasticman, your 20pt list is very good, actually. n/m, redirector, Tue, 29 Jan 2002 12:55:00
  • Re: Why Saab is better than BMW - At least to me!, Paul , Mon, 28 Jan 2002 17:08:45
  • Well, have you tried driving uphill in a front..., TKC, Mon, 28 Jan 2002 15:30:19
    • Huh?, Sieglo, Tue, 29 Jan 2002 18:59:39
  • 10 years of technology advance . . ., Jim, Mon, 28 Jan 2002 13:47:24
  • Oh dear. I have both (more), Bevan, Mon, 28 Jan 2002 13:30:08
    • Even more basic than that..., Ron H, Mon, 28 Jan 2002 13:40:32
      • VW Blue is even worse than BMW orange gage lighting!, Atul, Mon, 28 Jan 2002 17:46:37
        • I disagree, nickR, Mon, 28 Jan 2002 21:32:19
          • Audi's A6 dash is the worst, in my opinion! n/m, Bob M, Tue, 29 Jan 2002 14:00:35
        • Re: VW Blue is even worse than BMW orange gage lighting!, Ron H, Mon, 28 Jan 2002 18:55:33
  • Re: Why Saab is better than BMW - At least to me!, james, Mon, 28 Jan 2002 13:07:29
    • Re: Why Saab is better than BMW - At least to me!, Lou, Mon, 28 Jan 2002 13:15:39
      • Re: Why Saab is better than BMW - At least to me!, BernieC, Mon, 28 Jan 2002 16:09:12
        • Re: Why Saab is better than BMW - At least to me!, Lou, Mon, 28 Jan 2002 21:06:53
  • Re: Why Saab is better than BMW - At least to me!, BernieC, Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:31:12
  • As a BMW owner, I agree. But the debate isn't over., Plasticman, Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:08:43
  • Re: Why Saab is better than BMW - At least to me!, Lou, Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:57:23
  • This is funny, and so true!!, Polaris, Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:38:22

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