The great info you two have posted is not in dispute. It is expected that BMW would have to display some sort of content differentiation and superiority. Some of it, of course, is quite meaningful, while other features cited are merely trifles. Should we now trot out Night Panel, the way the back seats flip/fold flat, the spotlight, the little clip on the windshield, the newer Michelins, etc etc that the Saab has which the BMW lacks? That misses the point of this particular debate.

Doug mentioned, "The 9-5 is nice, and I would consider it again if the price was a little lower". It is, a lot lower than he posted. He also lamented a lack of TC and ESP on his 99. The 02's have both. Doug's history comments show a bad experience on resale value for his 99, I think I can better appreciate his position having seen that, but it wasn't clear from the first post.

It is no concession to say that the BMW 5-series is demonstrably superior to the Saab in many ways. The inverse is also true (as others have posted re: Safety, space, winter traction).

The point is, for $7-15k premium, the BMW is expected demonstrate a huge difference vs the new 9-5. The buyers of BMW are happy to pay that premium. Me, I'll take that money, buy some value-priced wine, and drink to mutual good fortune for the next 5 years.

Cheers!
Salud!
Skol!
La Heim! (sp?)


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• Why Saab is better than BMW - At least to me!, PaulD, Mon, 28 Jan 2002 10:49:57
  • Re: Why Saab is better than BMW - At least to me!, J, Sun, 8 Sep 2002 15:56:36
  • Re: Why Saab is better than BMW - At least to me!, Doug, Tue, 29 Jan 2002 07:59:03
    • My problem with BMW..., Bob M, Tue, 29 Jan 2002 13:52:32
    • Re: Why Saab is better than BMW - At least to me!, Lou, Tue, 29 Jan 2002 10:01:58
    • An Aero for $43k? $US? Then you didn't even try!, redirector, Tue, 29 Jan 2002 09:43:28
      • Re: An Aero for $43k? $US? Then you didn't even try!, Andrew gay, Wed, 30 Jan 2002 10:11:44
        • Try Canada, stevec, Wed, 30 Jan 2002 22:19:04
      • Re: An Aero for $43k? $US? Then you didn't even try!, Doug, Tue, 29 Jan 2002 13:49:24
        • Re: An Aero for $43k? $US? Then you didn't even try!, Raymond, Wed, 30 Jan 2002 15:54:59
          • Raymond, my 3 Cents worth.., Doug, Wed, 30 Jan 2002 21:53:25
            • Doug re: your 3 Cents worth.., Raymond, Thu, 31 Jan 2002 14:28:36
            • Sorry, screwed up link to crash test, Doug, Wed, 30 Jan 2002 21:55:37
        • You Are right On The Money, PaulF, Wed, 30 Jan 2002 02:20:40
          • "on the money"... that is, if you have the money, redirector, Wed, 30 Jan 2002 10:43:28 <-- Viewing This Message
      • Re: An Aero for $43k? $US? Then you didn't even try!, Doug, Tue, 29 Jan 2002 11:14:10
        • If I offended you, Doug, I am sorry., redirector, Tue, 29 Jan 2002 12:41:28
          • Re: If I offended you, Doug, I am sorry., Doug, Tue, 29 Jan 2002 17:30:13
            • Re: If I offended you, Doug, I am sorry., John, Wed, 30 Jan 2002 09:30:01
              • Re: If I offended you, Doug, I am sorry., Doug, Wed, 30 Jan 2002 22:42:49
                • What's wrong with the guages?, Ron H, Wed, 30 Jan 2002 23:27:26
                  • Re: What's wrong with the gauges?, Ron H, Wed, 30 Jan 2002 23:28:34
                    • spelling errors (need to learn how to type), Ron H, Wed, 30 Jan 2002 23:29:32
            • My problem with BMW, David G. Mills, Tue, 29 Jan 2002 20:13:58
      • $35000 for an Aero? Last month? Really? Where?, BernieC, Tue, 29 Jan 2002 10:51:02
        • Re: $35000 for an Aero? Last month? Really? Where?, NewSaabOwner, Tue, 29 Jan 2002 11:11:01
          • Re: $35000 for an Aero? Last month? Really? Where?, BernieC, Tue, 29 Jan 2002 11:43:33
            • Re: $35000 for an Aero? Last month? Really? Where?, redirector, Tue, 29 Jan 2002 12:02:54
    • I agree with you completely, or almost completely..., TKC, Tue, 29 Jan 2002 08:49:23
  • As much as I like BMWs M3 and M5s and so on..., Coolknight, Tue, 29 Jan 2002 05:50:31
    • Some answers...., Plasticman, Tue, 29 Jan 2002 12:13:19
      • Re: Some more answers...., Ed in NC, Tue, 29 Jan 2002 12:51:34
  • You will all hate me for this...a BMW perspective, Plasticman, Mon, 28 Jan 2002 18:03:53
    • Some corrections to your list!, VIKINGMAN, Wed, 30 Jan 2002 15:45:08
    • Plasticman, your 20pt list is very good, actually. n/m, redirector, Tue, 29 Jan 2002 12:55:00
  • Re: Why Saab is better than BMW - At least to me!, Paul , Mon, 28 Jan 2002 17:08:45
  • Well, have you tried driving uphill in a front..., TKC, Mon, 28 Jan 2002 15:30:19
    • Huh?, Sieglo, Tue, 29 Jan 2002 18:59:39
  • 10 years of technology advance . . ., Jim, Mon, 28 Jan 2002 13:47:24
  • Oh dear. I have both (more), Bevan, Mon, 28 Jan 2002 13:30:08
    • Even more basic than that..., Ron H, Mon, 28 Jan 2002 13:40:32
      • VW Blue is even worse than BMW orange gage lighting!, Atul, Mon, 28 Jan 2002 17:46:37
        • I disagree, nickR, Mon, 28 Jan 2002 21:32:19
          • Audi's A6 dash is the worst, in my opinion! n/m, Bob M, Tue, 29 Jan 2002 14:00:35
        • Re: VW Blue is even worse than BMW orange gage lighting!, Ron H, Mon, 28 Jan 2002 18:55:33
  • Re: Why Saab is better than BMW - At least to me!, james, Mon, 28 Jan 2002 13:07:29
    • Re: Why Saab is better than BMW - At least to me!, Lou, Mon, 28 Jan 2002 13:15:39
      • Re: Why Saab is better than BMW - At least to me!, BernieC, Mon, 28 Jan 2002 16:09:12
        • Re: Why Saab is better than BMW - At least to me!, Lou, Mon, 28 Jan 2002 21:06:53
  • Re: Why Saab is better than BMW - At least to me!, BernieC, Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:31:12
  • As a BMW owner, I agree. But the debate isn't over., Plasticman, Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:08:43
  • Re: Why Saab is better than BMW - At least to me!, Lou, Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:57:23
  • This is funny, and so true!!, Polaris, Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:38:22

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