As some other posters have indicated, *some* larger motors may get good mileage - I hope these folks are speaking from personal experience, not just quoting EPA numbers.

My experience is that some definitely do not. My wife bought a new 2002 Accord with the V6 late last year. Driving with the a/c on in hot Florida weather, about a 50/50 mix of city and highway driving, this car struggled to get 20 MPG (this is by hand computation, not relying on a trip computer or anything). At times it would average around 16 or 17. This in spite of the fact that with it's "225 horsepower" engine, it couldn't outrun my '86 9000T (rated 165HP) in any kind of race, except maybe a 0-20 drag! We had no reason to beleive the engine was not operating properly - it started and ran perfectly, no "check engine" light, etc. After break-in, I switched it to Mobil 1 which gave us maybe 1 more MPG.

After getting disgusted with this after a few months, she traded the car on a '99 9-5 with the 4-cylinder LPT engine. Acceleration is not as good as the Honda but it's not slow either. And using a/c almost 100% of the time, same mix of driving, same driving style, she averages 26-27 MPG, again verified by hand computation.

Eric Law

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• 300bhp V8 9-5 due in 2004, Paul , Wed, 25 Sep 2002 21:54:04
  • look to the future and go diesel saab (long), Liam, Fri, 27 Sep 2002 12:13:26
    • With diesel, every combustion is a ping. Not smooth. nm, J, Fri, 27 Sep 2002 16:32:52
      • I also hear thatthe spark plugs are tough to replace :), b.flippo, Mon, 30 Sep 2002 13:08:49
        • What?, bRAD, Mon, 30 Sep 2002 14:25:27
          • turbo-compound??, JimBlake , Mon, 30 Sep 2002 17:20:27
          • Check your muffler bearings, too. n/m, b.flippo, Mon, 30 Sep 2002 16:52:53
          • are you joking?, J, Mon, 30 Sep 2002 14:39:59
            • Re: are you joking?, bRAD, Mon, 30 Sep 2002 14:50:35
    • Local economics does it!, but not in U.S..., Mike Lynch , Fri, 27 Sep 2002 16:27:20
    • Saab does it too, bRAD, Fri, 27 Sep 2002 13:13:23
  • I'd much rather see Variable Compression Ratio Engine, J, Thu, 26 Sep 2002 15:57:34
  • Couple points, Eric Law, Thu, 26 Sep 2002 12:30:54
  • This is a step backward for Saab........, zeke, Thu, 26 Sep 2002 11:40:18
    • Let's clear a common misconception:, Hood, Fri, 27 Sep 2002 11:20:18
      • technical counter-point to efficiency question., J, Sat, 28 Sep 2002 01:09:02
      • I know this is anecdotal, but........., zeke, Fri, 27 Sep 2002 15:31:53
        • I agree that Saab's have great engine efficiency...., Hood, Fri, 27 Sep 2002 17:50:25
          • My S2000. 240hp and ULEV..., b.flippo, Sat, 28 Sep 2002 18:10:40
      • Your mileage may vary, Eric Law, Fri, 27 Sep 2002 14:22:40 <-- Viewing This Message
      • Re: Let's clear a common misconception:, Tony Basile, Fri, 27 Sep 2002 13:16:36
        • Well, here's a few:, Hood, Fri, 27 Sep 2002 17:40:51
          • Wrong on two counts here............., zeke, Fri, 27 Sep 2002 20:43:09
          • So how do they get the EPA numbers?, AdamB , Fri, 27 Sep 2002 18:54:06
        • Agree Tony. Which V8s get 28 mpg. I'd like one.n/m, Texron, Fri, 27 Sep 2002 13:34:02
          • Hell, an LT1 Camaro will get 28mpg on the highway..., Craig, Fri, 27 Sep 2002 15:26:47
            • So will an '89 Mustang LX 5.0, Jason, Fri, 27 Sep 2002 19:53:06
            • But I bet it doesn't get 25 MPG at 100+ Mph...nm, AdamB , Fri, 27 Sep 2002 15:45:10
          • One word... Northstar., b.flippo, Fri, 27 Sep 2002 14:00:03
            • Re: One word... Northstar., Tony Basile, Fri, 27 Sep 2002 16:45:11
              • Variable Valve Timing..., b.flippo, Fri, 27 Sep 2002 19:20:10
    • This reaffirms my statement:, b.flippo, Thu, 26 Sep 2002 12:49:39
      • This sort of logic reminds me of......., zeke, Thu, 26 Sep 2002 17:56:36
        • They haven't destroyed anything..., b.flippo, Thu, 26 Sep 2002 18:14:49
          • ... We all have to make a deal with the devil ..., J, Thu, 26 Sep 2002 18:50:22
            • Wow. I'm teary eyed. n/m, b.flippo, Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:25:17
  • Not sure about this, RedSPG18, Thu, 26 Sep 2002 01:30:19
    • I agree, but..., No.9, Thu, 26 Sep 2002 10:54:25
    • It's all about sales, my friend..., b.flippo, Thu, 26 Sep 2002 09:24:23
      • I partly agree ..., J, Thu, 26 Sep 2002 16:15:08
        • Remember..., b.flippo, Thu, 26 Sep 2002 16:37:15
          • Re: 450 hp, all wheel drive, hatchback?, officeboy, Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:31:14
          • Re: Remember..., J, Thu, 26 Sep 2002 16:59:08
      • This is heresy, but what SAAB needs..., Jason, Thu, 26 Sep 2002 10:55:42
        • No way, dude, Hood, Fri, 27 Sep 2002 11:26:14
          • Re: No way, dude, Jason, Fri, 27 Sep 2002 16:13:51
        • By the way..., b.flippo, Thu, 26 Sep 2002 12:45:52
          • VW has already announced no W8 in next Passat n/m, elSaab, Thu, 26 Sep 2002 13:36:32
            • You'll see the W8 in the U.S..., b.flippo, Thu, 26 Sep 2002 15:21:29
            • Where did you hear that? n/m, bRAD, Thu, 26 Sep 2002 13:40:22
              • It was Autoweek, I think>>, elSaab, Thu, 26 Sep 2002 13:50:07
                • For anyone else who'd like to see.., bRAD, Thu, 26 Sep 2002 14:05:20
                  • Passat W8, Jason, Thu, 26 Sep 2002 20:11:37
                    • I've seen three, bRAD, Fri, 27 Sep 2002 10:43:44
                      • Hmm!, Jason, Fri, 27 Sep 2002 16:19:39
        • We designed a gorgeous SUV..., b.flippo, Thu, 26 Sep 2002 12:43:12
          • 256?, bRAD, Thu, 26 Sep 2002 13:05:58
            • It was scrapped during the second quarter this year.n/m, b.flippo, Thu, 26 Sep 2002 13:45:32
              • You are referring to the 266. The 256 was the, Price, Thu, 26 Sep 2002 15:42:54
                • It was a bummer when..., b.flippo, Thu, 26 Sep 2002 16:09:26
                  • Jesus, an exact copy of the Rendezvous?, Hood, Fri, 27 Sep 2002 11:30:00
                    • That's why it was discontinued..., b.flippo, Fri, 27 Sep 2002 12:31:48
      • Well put!! (nm), VP, Thu, 26 Sep 2002 10:26:53
    • Re: Not sure about this, JBinMD, Thu, 26 Sep 2002 08:34:00
  • Dang..., waSAABi , Thu, 26 Sep 2002 01:09:05
    • torque steer anyone? :-) n/m, J, Thu, 26 Sep 2002 15:45:28
  • Re: 300bhp V8 9-5 due in 2004, Jo K, Wed, 25 Sep 2002 21:55:37

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