In Reply to: OT: Two kids killed in a 9-5 in Hopkinton, MA...Issues, turrbo [Profile/Gallery] , Mon, 27 Mar 2006 09:12:09

Oh please don't get me started on this!

In a nutshell, I think the current trend of trying to make everyone's life better by making everything illegal is ridiculous. In particular, it only serves to further diminish the almost-nonexistent concept of personal responsibility.

Beleive me, having been close to events like this one, I have a great deal of sympathy for the children's families and parents. But here's something to consider that I haven't seen mentioned in any of the news reports about accidents with young drivers: doesn't it take a parent's signature for an under-18 person to get a learner's permit or license? Well there's a reason for that - people develop at different rates, and everyone is different. What this means in this particular context is that while many people are ready (in terms of maturity) to drive at the age of 16 or 17, some are not (of course I've met a few who shouldn't be driving at age 30 or 40 either :^) ). And while the state accepts some responsibility in deciding whether a driver should be allowed on the road (mostly in the area of technical skills), the parents must also take responsibility for determining if their child is responsible & competent enough. That's part of raising a child - developing and enforcing good judgement about what the child can do and when.

Also on a more objective note, I have heard of several studies that back up the point that Mike made in his post - that # of years of driving experience is a better predictor of the likelihood of an accident than is age. That's why the car insurance companies do it that way!

Eric Law

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• OT: Two kids killed in a 9-5 in Hopkinton, MA...Issues, turrbo , Mon, 27 Mar 2006 09:12:09
  • training and licenseing changes seem to work, 79-900t , Tue, 28 Mar 2006 16:39:25
  • raise the age, rob 94 cse, Tue, 28 Mar 2006 11:05:22
  • c'mon, 18??, Chris, Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:21:32
    • Re: c'mon, 18??, AdamB , Tue, 28 Mar 2006 14:41:52
    • Bicycle, NickR, Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:23:41
  • Teaching..., Eric Law, Tue, 28 Mar 2006 07:23:15
    • the speeding part.., yaofeng, Tue, 28 Mar 2006 11:16:40
      • Re: the speeding part.., andrew95, Thu, 30 Mar 2006 12:11:03
        • Re: the speeding part.., soneway, Thu, 30 Mar 2006 12:17:40
    • Speak the truth!, ChuckD , Tue, 28 Mar 2006 09:00:49
      • Well said,, SeeVTSaab, Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:19:20
      • defensive driving must be taught, saabnroark , Tue, 28 Mar 2006 09:39:31
  • Re: OT: Two kids killed in a 9-5 in Hopkinton, MA...Issues, dboone, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 22:25:15
  • How about parents that ACTUALLY teach ..., n8, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 21:14:32
    • Agreed, Schu, Tue, 28 Mar 2006 06:16:58
    • How about parents who can ACTUALLY drive themselves?, PT, Tue, 28 Mar 2006 04:42:02
      • Re: How about parents who can ACTUALLY drive themselves, Eric Law, Tue, 28 Mar 2006 04:54:05
  • Progressive license - some states have it, MIke in Anchorage, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 17:53:21
    • MA has something like this..., turrbo , Mon, 27 Mar 2006 21:53:25
  • Re: OT: Two kids killed in a 9-5 in Hopkinton, MA...Issues, SilverAeroGuy, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 12:25:11
    • Re: Driver's ed would be a good first step, AeroDave, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 16:22:12
  • They must really have been moving fast, AdamB , Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:20:34
    • Sounds like..., fsik, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 20:25:59
      • Re: Sounds like..., AdamB , Tue, 28 Mar 2006 06:10:29
        • Re: Sounds like..., fsik, Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:37:21
  • Having real license tests and driver's education, AdamB , Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:16:09
    • It's easier to get a pilot's license in the US, NickR, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:21:01
  • Completely for raising age to 18, NickR, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:07:41
    • In response to Mike and Eric, NickR, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:11:12
      • Hmmm..., Eric Law, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 12:59:38
        • Actually ..., Caspar, Tue, 28 Mar 2006 07:44:05
        • Re: Hmmm..., AdamB , Tue, 28 Mar 2006 06:06:24
        • Re: Hmmm..., IronJoe, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 15:57:18
  • Re: OT: Two kids killed in a 9-5 in Hopkinton, MA, Eric Law, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 10:11:56 <-- Viewing This Message
    • Re: OT: Two kids killed in a 9-5 in Hopkinton, MA, soneway, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 15:05:05
      • Age of driver vs years of driving, Geoff, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 15:56:13
  • First .we get serious about licensing in general, ChuckD , Mon, 27 Mar 2006 09:23:13
    • Let me tell you what my licensing procedure was like..., turrbo , Mon, 27 Mar 2006 22:09:44
      • What my licensing procedure was like...times 2, SilverAeroGuy, Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:11:38
      • Mine was like this...., Erik, Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:02:17
        • Re: Mine was like this...., soneway, Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:21:15
    • I agree, matt 94 aero, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:52:10
    • raising age doesn't help too much, mike-p., Mon, 27 Mar 2006 09:34:45

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