I guess I didn't understand your comment, "Also on a more objective note, I have heard of several studies that back up the point that Mike made in his post - that # of years of driving experience is a better predictor of the likelihood of an accident than is age. That's why the car insurance companies do it that way!"

Not sure of your age or if you have kids, but the insurance companies look at the age of the driver. And the demographics of accidents and the drivers involved. A teenaged female driver has a better rate than a male one, both get a better rate after two years of driving without an accident. It has been shown that younger drivers (not drivers with less time behind the wheel) are more prone to peer pressure and doing foolish things. If you started as a driver at 25 you'd start at a better rate than my teenage son at 17. California requires classroom education, behind the wheel education, and if you are under 18 you can *not* transport another teenager in the car unless 1) there is a licensed driver over 25 in the car with you *or* 2) you have been driving for over one year. Basically age and experience are required. And yes, it requires a signature from *both* parents to get the learners permit, which requires a licensed driver in the car when driving, and the after sufficient hours as a "learner" (I forgot the number...) you can then have your parents sign a statement that you have completed the hours, and then take the drivers road test (you had to take the written to get a permit) and the written again, to get your license. And the age and/or time having a license then applies. There is also a time of day restriction (driving after midnight is a no no) as well. Unless you are working on a farm, then you can drive early in the morning.

and it still doesn't stop drivers from taking poor choices while driving.

It's a shame about the kids in this accident. It's always a shame.

-soneway

• OT: Two kids killed in a 9-5 in Hopkinton, MA...Issues, turrbo , Mon, 27 Mar 2006 09:12:09
  • training and licenseing changes seem to work, 79-900t , Tue, 28 Mar 2006 16:39:25
  • raise the age, rob 94 cse, Tue, 28 Mar 2006 11:05:22
  • c'mon, 18??, Chris, Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:21:32
    • Re: c'mon, 18??, AdamB , Tue, 28 Mar 2006 14:41:52
    • Bicycle, NickR, Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:23:41
  • Teaching..., Eric Law, Tue, 28 Mar 2006 07:23:15
    • the speeding part.., yaofeng, Tue, 28 Mar 2006 11:16:40
      • Re: the speeding part.., andrew95, Thu, 30 Mar 2006 12:11:03
        • Re: the speeding part.., soneway, Thu, 30 Mar 2006 12:17:40
    • Speak the truth!, ChuckD , Tue, 28 Mar 2006 09:00:49
      • Well said,, SeeVTSaab, Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:19:20
      • defensive driving must be taught, saabnroark , Tue, 28 Mar 2006 09:39:31
  • Re: OT: Two kids killed in a 9-5 in Hopkinton, MA...Issues, dboone, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 22:25:15
  • How about parents that ACTUALLY teach ..., n8, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 21:14:32
    • Agreed, Schu, Tue, 28 Mar 2006 06:16:58
    • How about parents who can ACTUALLY drive themselves?, PT, Tue, 28 Mar 2006 04:42:02
      • Re: How about parents who can ACTUALLY drive themselves, Eric Law, Tue, 28 Mar 2006 04:54:05
  • Progressive license - some states have it, MIke in Anchorage, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 17:53:21
    • MA has something like this..., turrbo , Mon, 27 Mar 2006 21:53:25
  • Re: OT: Two kids killed in a 9-5 in Hopkinton, MA...Issues, SilverAeroGuy, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 12:25:11
    • Re: Driver's ed would be a good first step, AeroDave, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 16:22:12
  • They must really have been moving fast, AdamB , Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:20:34
    • Sounds like..., fsik, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 20:25:59
      • Re: Sounds like..., AdamB , Tue, 28 Mar 2006 06:10:29
        • Re: Sounds like..., fsik, Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:37:21
  • Having real license tests and driver's education, AdamB , Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:16:09
    • It's easier to get a pilot's license in the US, NickR, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:21:01
  • Completely for raising age to 18, NickR, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:07:41
    • In response to Mike and Eric, NickR, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:11:12
      • Hmmm..., Eric Law, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 12:59:38
        • Actually ..., Caspar, Tue, 28 Mar 2006 07:44:05
        • Re: Hmmm..., AdamB , Tue, 28 Mar 2006 06:06:24
        • Re: Hmmm..., IronJoe, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 15:57:18
  • Re: OT: Two kids killed in a 9-5 in Hopkinton, MA, Eric Law, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 10:11:56
    • Re: OT: Two kids killed in a 9-5 in Hopkinton, MA, soneway, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 15:05:05 <-- Viewing This Message
      • Age of driver vs years of driving, Geoff, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 15:56:13
  • First .we get serious about licensing in general, ChuckD , Mon, 27 Mar 2006 09:23:13
    • Let me tell you what my licensing procedure was like..., turrbo , Mon, 27 Mar 2006 22:09:44
      • What my licensing procedure was like...times 2, SilverAeroGuy, Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:11:38
      • Mine was like this...., Erik, Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:02:17
        • Re: Mine was like this...., soneway, Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:21:15
    • I agree, matt 94 aero, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:52:10
    • raising age doesn't help too much, mike-p., Mon, 27 Mar 2006 09:34:45

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