In Reply to: Re: What is overwork?, Caarma [Profile/Gallery] , Wed, 9 Jul 2008 13:50:41

Lots of companies that are "good" here use labor in 3rd world countries where conditions are pretty bad. But conditions that would give OSHA fits in the US may be business as usual elsewhere.

I realize that's not an excuse, and that I'm playing a bit of devil's advocate, but it does pose the question of what is the appropriate standard by which to judge how well a company treats its employees.

Should, for example, all companies limit hours to 40 per week? 1 hour lunch breaks? 15 minute breaks every 3 hours? Should overtime always be optional? What is the right amount of vacation time? In the US we think 2-3 weeks is OK, but in much of Europe 4-6 weeks is the norm. Then there's things like employee-paid healthcare, maternity leave, flex time, etc.

What is the minimum standard? And how does it relate to the local economy? I know people who won't shop at WalMart because they don't like its employment practices. But Wally's paychecks are supporting a lot households in this country. So how does one decide?

I don't mean to harass you, just pushing the discussion, which is harder to do virtually than face to face.

• Why support companies that overwork their employees?, Caarma , Wed, 9 Jul 2008 11:11:38
  • Re: Why support companies that overwork their employees?, Caarma , Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:33:46
    • This thread could die of overwork (n/m), JMJ in NC, Tue, 15 Jul 2008 05:55:30
  • The answer is..better Union Representation, Railhead , Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:43:45
    • Re: Union Representation, Noel, Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:11:51
  • Re: Why support companies that overwork their employees?, Caarma , Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:23:32
  • BS, JMJ in NC, Thu, 10 Jul 2008 06:05:29
    • It's not BS, Caarma , Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:28:07
      • you missed 80hrs overtime / MONTH, cfishgo, Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:54:41
        • Re: you missed 80hrs overtime / MONTH, TML , Sun, 13 Jul 2008 10:53:05
      • What do you eat?, JMJ in NC, Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:58:43
  • How about companies that place employees..., CWilson, Wed, 9 Jul 2008 14:37:16
  • What is overwork?, Noel, Wed, 9 Jul 2008 12:59:28
    • Re: What is overwork?, Caarma , Wed, 9 Jul 2008 13:50:41
      • Ok. I buy that. But how can you really know?, Noel, Wed, 9 Jul 2008 16:10:54 <-- Viewing This Message
        • Re: Ok. I buy that. But how can you really know?, DougM , Wed, 9 Jul 2008 21:18:46
          • Shift work, I know it well..., CWilson, Thu, 10 Jul 2008 05:56:52
            • Re: Shift work, I know it well..., xhawksaab, Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:27:44
  • Try commission sales..., Mike Lynch , Wed, 9 Jul 2008 12:32:02
  • By same token, ? support companies that coddle theirs?, SJohnB, Wed, 9 Jul 2008 12:04:07
    • Re: By same token, ? support companies that coddle theirs?, Caarma , Wed, 9 Jul 2008 12:13:56

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