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Re: Personal wishful thinking vs. Reality
Posted by Reality (more from Reality) on Sun, 8 May 2011 20:18:38
In Reply to: Re: Personal wishful thinking vs. Reality, James, Sun, 8 May 2011 19:25:47
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How exactly would Keynesian fiscal policy be possible without renouncing sound money? It can't be done. It has never been done. Not a single Keynesian, from Keynes himself down to every single Keynesian today has ever advocated Keyneisan fiscal policy without Keynesian monetary policy (i.e. fiat money printing). They know quite well that it is not possible.
Debating people with blind faith in "correctly using Keynesian cyclical fiscal policy" is like debating apologists for the soviet system ("they were not real socialists/communists"), or explaining Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle to neophytes never heard of quantum physics. Government intervention in the market place changes the shape and duration of the cycles (the very purpose of the intervention), which in turn makes correct identification of the cycles impossible! It's called the "FED Uncertainty Principle." Private traders can front-run those slow-moving government committees much faster than the committees themselves . . . when the Keynesian fantasy is all about those committees front-running the private traders in identifying cycle peaks and bottoms! How is that even possible?! Governments of the world have tried counter-cyclical intervention for thousands of years. Every time where there is objective measure of return, the committees ran out of funds very quickly as they misidentified their timing; so they always had to resort to fiat money . . . and that always led to the cumbersome busybodies bringing down the whole economy with them.
I hope some do realize the term "stimulus" is a bit of an inside joke among early Keynesians: it's an analogy to a drug fix! We know what happens to the addict's body after repeated "stimulus." Cutting tax is not a stimulus. When a horse is sick, removing some of its burden is not at all a "stimulus." It's just removing burden. The idea that taking less money from you at gun point is the same as giving your neighbor more money is one of the pitifully counter-factual conclusions from Keynesian aggregation. In reality, who gets paid when/how-much/for-what-reason is of critical importance to purposeful human behavior. Human action is not Brownian Motion.
Raising taxes in boom times runs the same problem as deficit spending in lean times: how do you identify the peak and bottom? sufficiently ahead of time so as to give sufficient lead time for bureaucratic paper pushing? Like I said before, if such wizards existed in real life, their talent would be much better utilized if we just turn them loose and let them be private traders. Their own profit-driven trades to short sell at the peak and buy long at the bottom will generate far more timely counter-cyclical influence than decisions winding through government committees ever will. So once again, the reason for having a government coercive office carrying out Keynesian market intervention disappears. Would you also advocate a government committee to chew food for people before swallowing food for people? Just because chewing food before swallowing is a good idea, just because trading counter-cyclically is a good idea, doesn't mean there has to be government monopoly to do either, or that such a monopoly if ever established would be effective at all instead of making things worse.
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Posts in this Thread:
- Car company bailouts, No Snaab, Thu, 5 May 2011 13:19:51
- GM to add 4,000 jobs, duking it out with Toyota, No Snaab, Wed, 11 May 2011 07:58:09
- Important to see the big picture, Noel, Fri, 6 May 2011 06:16:54
- Doubly Ironic, Reality, Fri, 6 May 2011 07:00:56
- So why don't you tell us, Noel, Fri, 6 May 2011 09:45:54
- He doesn't deal in "reality", No Snaab, Fri, 6 May 2011 11:17:12
- Re: So why don't you tell us, Reality, Fri, 6 May 2011 10:46:21
- You didn't answer the questions, Noel, Fri, 6 May 2011 11:17:54
- Re: You didn't answer the questions, Reality, Fri, 6 May 2011 11:43:04
- Re: You (still) didn't answer the questions, Noel, Fri, 6 May 2011 12:49:13
- He won't answer, No Snaab, Fri, 6 May 2011 14:12:45
- What is Heaven like?, Reality, Fri, 6 May 2011 15:04:00
- less vs more vs balance, James, Fri, 6 May 2011 15:31:40
- Balance is okay, Reality, Fri, 6 May 2011 16:10:30
- What color is the sky in your world?, Noel, Fri, 6 May 2011 16:24:48
- Blue, Black, Grey, White, Orange, Pink, Red,, Reality, Fri, 6 May 2011 16:46:55
- So without the government stepping in, Noel, Fri, 6 May 2011 19:55:24
- Re: Blue, Black, Grey, White, Orange, Pink, Red,, James, Fri, 6 May 2011 18:11:52
- False Choice, Reality, Fri, 6 May 2011 13:33:38
- Re: So why don't you tell us...Been there done that an, Joeychess, Fri, 6 May 2011 10:22:45
- That's fiscally responsible and also well stated yet, Joeychess, Fri, 6 May 2011 08:19:33
- Re: Important to see the big picture...Well said n/m, Joeychess, Fri, 6 May 2011 06:22:03
- Don't kid yourself, BTG88, Thu, 5 May 2011 21:59:15
- Gov't role in today's economy, adl6009 , Thu, 5 May 2011 19:17:20
- Ironic timing, "new" GM is caught stuffing channel, Reality, Thu, 5 May 2011 13:41:26
- Macro econ. vs the guy at the plant, AlS, Thu, 5 May 2011 18:16:21
- Keynesianism is Macro Econ, duh!, Reality, Thu, 5 May 2011 18:27:34
- "I address car topics under a different user name.", Steve T., Fri, 6 May 2011 08:02:22
- Keynes vs. Keynes..., James, Fri, 6 May 2011 06:49:05
- Re: Keynesianism is Macro Econ, duh!, kkelley, Thu, 5 May 2011 20:37:44
- Apparently stuffing the distribution channel works, Paul B., Thu, 5 May 2011 16:33:57
- Re: Ironic timing, "new" GM is caught stuffing channel, kkelley, Thu, 5 May 2011 14:50:16
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