Mind you that modern diesel propelled produce about 35% less CO2 per mile than gas propelled cars!! So that's one of many reasons why most technological R&D goes into diesel engines in Europe today. Diesel engines are much more fuel efficient than gas engines.
And slow???? No way. New diesel cars like BMW, Citroen Volkswagen and fortunately Saab are quick movers. Top speeds of well over 125 mph are no problem.
Japan is still quite a bit behind in this technology. But even Honda is investing tons of money in diesel technology right now. It proves there's definitely a future.
American cars would sell better in Europe if they were lighter and more fuel effcicient. Some of them are on their way with the help of Euro suppliers. Chrysler is the only successful " direct from the US" car seller also because of diesel technology put into the Voyager and Jeep (Grand) Cherokee. Ford (Windstar, Mustang etc.) and GM (Chevy) are doing quite a bad job here by only selling big and heavy.

About CO2 we can only guess the consequences. Scientists are so contradictory on this point. But let's face it: cleaner air is always better. And the time is right to start thinking about things like this instead of sticking our heads in the sand.
All site users already made a good move by driving an environment concious car like Saab. Best of all it's a great car too. So the best of two worlds.

• The Kyoto CO2 Rip-Off, Coolknight, Tue, 3 Jul 2001 09:54:13
  • Diesel has a great future, Pieter M. Kuipers, Wed, 4 Jul 2001 17:37:18 <-- Viewing This Message
    • absolutely!, John A., Wed, 4 Jul 2001 18:46:44
  • dirty diesel engines you say?, Dean, Wed, 4 Jul 2001 11:40:12
    • US diesel fuel IS heating oil; one is just dyed for taxation., jp, Thu, 5 Jul 2001 12:02:38
      • That's #2 diesel., Dave Westlake, Thu, 5 Jul 2001 14:51:05
    • Because he's seen a swiss report, AdamB , Wed, 4 Jul 2001 11:50:29
      • Re: Because he's seen a swiss report, Dean, Thu, 5 Jul 2001 10:54:00
      • Swiss, Austrian, and French report, John A., Wed, 4 Jul 2001 12:33:04
  • CO2 reduction YES, Hi fuel TAXES NO!, Coolknight, Wed, 4 Jul 2001 05:06:34
    • whatever it takes, John A., Wed, 4 Jul 2001 10:21:47
    • Corr. CO2 reduction YES, Higher fuel TAXES NO!, Coolknight, Wed, 4 Jul 2001 06:03:10
  • who ya gonna believe, CK?, John A,, Tue, 3 Jul 2001 23:40:45
  • a different perspective, Jo K, Tue, 3 Jul 2001 17:09:12
    • been following the polls? (nm), John A., Tue, 3 Jul 2001 23:44:57
      • You'll need to elaborate I'm afraid. nt, Jo K, Wed, 4 Jul 2001 01:15:18
        • Re: You'll need to elaborate I'm afraid. nt, John A., Wed, 4 Jul 2001 11:00:18
          • Ah, I see, Jo K, Wed, 4 Jul 2001 16:10:36
  • Re: The Kyoto CO2 Rip-Off, Eli5, Tue, 3 Jul 2001 15:35:51
    • you must not be reading them all... ;) n/m, chrisx, Tue, 3 Jul 2001 19:30:24
  • Re: The Kyoto CO2 Rip-Off, Sjer, Tue, 3 Jul 2001 14:08:20
    • Japan's end game, John A., Tue, 3 Jul 2001 23:48:00
    • Re: The Kyoto CO2 Rip-Off, julz, Tue, 3 Jul 2001 18:25:13
    • Re: How many european coutries have ratified the treaty?n/m, jack b, Tue, 3 Jul 2001 15:15:40
      • One. The treaty isn't due for ratification 'till 2002 (nm), John A,, Tue, 3 Jul 2001 23:52:59
      • I believe that the EU has ratified the treaty., tlrm, Tue, 3 Jul 2001 15:24:11
        • Re: I believe that the EU has ratified the treaty., Jo K, Tue, 3 Jul 2001 17:10:54
  • Global Warming a hoax, Dave, Tue, 3 Jul 2001 14:00:42
    • temp measurement devices (long), saabaru, Thu, 5 Jul 2001 11:30:54
      • this helps, thanks, John A., Thu, 5 Jul 2001 13:16:56
    • LOL Now that is a blatant disregard of the truth...., AdamB , Wed, 4 Jul 2001 05:26:39
      • blame Canada, John A., Wed, 4 Jul 2001 11:04:27
    • Re: Global Warming a hoax, David Hanley, Tue, 3 Jul 2001 17:14:06
      • ExxonMobil wants YOU to believe it's a hoax, John A,, Tue, 3 Jul 2001 23:51:36
  • Re: The Kyoto CO2 Rip-Off, julz, Tue, 3 Jul 2001 12:20:44
    • Woo Hoo WHAT fun, julz, Tue, 3 Jul 2001 19:02:45
    • sorry, the "science" behind global warming is very iffy..., MJM , Tue, 3 Jul 2001 13:51:12
      • 25 Years ago some were perdicting an ice age n/m, Ron H, Wed, 4 Jul 2001 09:02:00
      • evolution, David R, Wed, 4 Jul 2001 06:43:59
      • Re: sorry, the "science" behind global warming is very iffy..., David Hanley, Tue, 3 Jul 2001 17:21:48
        • Re: sorry, the "science" behind global warming is very iffy..., julz, Tue, 3 Jul 2001 18:30:09
      • There is a thing called the "protective principal":, tlrm, Tue, 3 Jul 2001 14:33:52
        • "protective principal": -excellent point, John A, Wed, 4 Jul 2001 00:00:12
        • Re: There is a thing called the "protective principal":, MJM , Tue, 3 Jul 2001 15:20:27
          • Nuclear power is a French thang, not EU level policy., tlrm, Tue, 3 Jul 2001 15:31:35
      • Re: sorry, the "science" behind global warming is very iffy..., chrisx, Tue, 3 Jul 2001 14:24:23
        • understanding an effect is _very_ different from understanding, MJM , Tue, 3 Jul 2001 15:24:04
          • sorry, I for one, do not believe you (nm), John A., Tue, 3 Jul 2001 23:55:09
          • sure...if you are pre-human it makes sense....zog LIKE fire. n/m, chrisx, Tue, 3 Jul 2001 19:29:14
            • that right. Zog do 'nother experiment showing square stick burn,, saabaru, Thu, 5 Jul 2001 13:04:17
              • Re: that right. Zog do 'nother experiment showing square stick burn,, MJM , Wed, 11 Jul 2001 08:46:30
              • right you are again, John A., Thu, 5 Jul 2001 13:28:08

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