Sorry to hear you are going through this. I suspect most of the guys on this board have been through something similar. It's not easy, but you'll be okay, either with or without her. My educational background is in psychology and counseling, and unfortunately, I don't have any better answers for you, these situations are never fun.

I think you need to be honest with her, and avoid the possible pitfalls of the reverse psychology. If she wants to come back, I think it is important to tell her how her actions have hurt you, and made you question a future with her.

Since you did not go on the cruise, spend some time contemplating what you might do if she is no longer a part of your life. Making some plans sometimes helps to realize you have other options, and you are strong enough to get through a very difficult time. Go for a quiet drive in your Saab and listen to some favorite CD's (don't drive too fast, and don't listen to downer music).

Good luck and let us know how you are doing. Erik

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• OT: PLEASE HELP!!!, Redmilk, Thu, 28 Nov 2002 14:06:19
  • An update, Redmilk, Sat, 30 Nov 2002 01:25:21
  • Are you kidding? (Tough love on the way ...), j-ro, Fri, 29 Nov 2002 14:33:56
    • Saab = Chick Magnet, FrozenSaab, Fri, 29 Nov 2002 15:23:06
  • 'Talking things out here on the BB is one way of>, Traffic Shark , Fri, 29 Nov 2002 12:24:30
  • Re: OT: PLEASE HELP!!!, Chad, Fri, 29 Nov 2002 11:11:01
  • Don't play games and don't use psycology...., Richard P., Fri, 29 Nov 2002 10:05:00
    • Re: Don't play games and don't use psycology...., Tio Barry, Fri, 29 Nov 2002 10:49:54
      • Re: Don't play games and don't use psycology...., KsKid, Fri, 29 Nov 2002 12:57:26
  • Here be the solution, Sir Mix-a-lot, Fri, 29 Nov 2002 10:01:25
  • Something to consider, Daanimal900, Fri, 29 Nov 2002 03:21:57
    • Similar to Daanimal900, Terry G-B, Fri, 29 Nov 2002 11:21:03
      • You reminded me of something..., Daanimal900, Fri, 29 Nov 2002 23:35:20
  • It hurts me a bit to read this . . ., MJP, Thu, 28 Nov 2002 23:50:08
    • I know a guy who went through the same thing ..., J, Thu, 28 Nov 2002 23:58:55
  • Re: OT: PLEASE HELP!!!, Erik, Thu, 28 Nov 2002 19:25:44 <-- Viewing This Message
  • General Theme..., FrozenSaab, Thu, 28 Nov 2002 16:46:39
  • Its your call man..., bRAD, Thu, 28 Nov 2002 16:44:00
    • I'll tell you something bRAD,..., StanleyB, Thu, 28 Nov 2002 16:57:36
      • it was a joke, MJP, Thu, 28 Nov 2002 23:54:01
  • Keep them coming, this helps. thanks. nm, Redmilk, Thu, 28 Nov 2002 16:07:03
  • Yes, I agree that the reach and withdraw that you talk, KB88900T, Thu, 28 Nov 2002 15:54:35
    • Thank you KB nm, Redmilk, Thu, 28 Nov 2002 16:05:52
  • Female point of view encouraged too! nm, redmilk, Thu, 28 Nov 2002 15:15:58
  • Been there, done it...> (long), StanleyB, Thu, 28 Nov 2002 14:44:39
    • StanleyB makes a good point..., FrozenSaab, Thu, 28 Nov 2002 14:51:20
  • Re: OT: PLEASE HELP!!!, FrozenSaab, Thu, 28 Nov 2002 14:33:28
  • My advise ..., J, Thu, 28 Nov 2002 14:31:48
    • DOH! ... It should say "My advice" or "I advise". n/m, J, Thu, 28 Nov 2002 14:32:40
      • Thank you stanley, frozen, J. nm, redmilk, Thu, 28 Nov 2002 16:06:30

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