How do you define a "best engine"? Does cost matter?

Ordinary dude cannot compare engines because very few have a research lab in their garage, or technical knowhow about metallurgy.

But I'm pretty sure that Saab's Trionic8 is most advanced engine management system in normal commercial sector.

Looking wankel engine fuel/torque levels its clear it cannot compete with turbo engines.

And its also clear that n.a engines are thing of the past.

BMW has said that they will move to turbos soon as they eliminate all lag.
Merc has said that compressor(supercharge) engines were mistake and they will eventually move to turbos that are better.

Competition is coming, Saab has to stay alert. Sure they have a patent claims, for example invention that would save maybe 30% fuel use in high engine load.
But does GM feed enough money to Saab? We only know that GM does not allow Saab to make totally new radical engines like SVC.

But back to bisnes, how you rate things like, cost, miles per gallon, power, torque and durability will in the end give some sort of result.

Durability is one of the most important factors but also the most diffucult to study.

Add certain cost multiplier to that and...hmm Lada?

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• Who makes the best engines?, J, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:13:25
  • Best bang for the buck........, mcnasty, Sat, 29 Jan 2005 05:40:02
  • Re: Rolls Royce?, t_mokes, Fri, 28 Jan 2005 15:02:21
  • How does it compare to who makes the most?, Mike Lynch , Fri, 28 Jan 2005 12:48:12
  • What?!? No vote for the Hemi?, J, Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:30:32
    • Dude!, Eiron, Fri, 28 Jan 2005 12:46:00
      • Work is great. Social is not so good, though ..., J, Fri, 28 Jan 2005 13:04:51
  • Pow Pow Powerwheels, TheKillerPenguin, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 20:15:23
  • Re: Who makes the best engines?, Spiros Trianta, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 19:07:25
    • Why aren't there turbine motors for street use?, Brian_in_MA, Fri, 28 Jan 2005 06:30:53
      • Cost, cost, and, well, cost, Ari , Fri, 28 Jan 2005 06:56:10
        • thermal efficiency, too, JimBlake , Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:41:52
          • Talk about lack of low end torque!...., Mike Lynch , Fri, 28 Jan 2005 12:43:37
            • Re: Talk about lack of low end torque!...., JimBlake , Fri, 28 Jan 2005 14:25:41
              • Electrics, max torque at zero....., Mike Lynch , Fri, 28 Jan 2005 16:17:03
                • Re: Electrics, max torque at zero....., Spiros Trianta, Sat, 29 Jan 2005 13:32:05
  • What about the GM LSx series, Steve88SiS, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 18:49:28
    • mileage, matt 94 aero, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:02:41
  • Re: Who makes the best engines?, Steve in Chicago, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 18:15:26
  • Re: Who makes the best engines?, danny1940, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:44:31
  • Nissan Twin Turbo inline-6 ;) (skyline) NM, Trev, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 15:43:46
  • Depends on how you define "best.", Noel, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 15:28:00
  • GM's 3800 is my favorite..., jimtimkim, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:51:16
    • It is blown..., bazil burns, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 16:50:52
      • I had one, (sort of), Finch, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 18:26:20
        • Well, it is a 60's design IIRC..., bazil burns, Fri, 28 Jan 2005 03:41:46
  • Re: Who makes the best engines?, Dean, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:49:53
  • Re: Who makes the best engines?, yeppie, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:45:07 <-- Viewing This Message
  • Re: Who makes the best engines?, GM, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:24:04
    • the RPM for peak torque is what matters, compaqted, Fri, 28 Jan 2005 05:29:37
    • misconception, jeff, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:42:42
      • torque is still a lousy metric, nt moore, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:51:35
        • you need both, jeff, Fri, 28 Jan 2005 05:00:29
        • Passat TDI, nt moore, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 22:00:15
      • Re: misconception, GM, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 20:04:30
        • I drove a WRX..., Bob M, Fri, 28 Jan 2005 05:59:00
  • Saab, of course n/m, code08, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:21:06
  • Honda, jeff, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:16:56
    • Second Honda, Pat Hurley, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 15:13:01
      • Re: Third Honda, Aero'ed, Fri, 28 Jan 2005 09:28:40
  • Not that any of us will ever be able to afford it ..., Urby, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:13:59
    • Rotary engines are great,, Finch, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 18:35:54
      • Good point about the oil--, Urby, Fri, 28 Jan 2005 06:42:30
    • Rotaries (Wankels) are not that new, been around since, Red Rocket, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:21:02

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