like stated below, I think they do not have much torque. Comparing the s2000's numbers to a viggen's numbers I feel give some info on the complete lack of torque the s2000's have. Also read the writeups especially on the first engine in the cars how they have nothing below 6K or so.

I also prefer engine's which develop equal or more torque then HP, just like saab's do. Being able to run a car to 8-10K I am sure is fun however I would much rather sacrifice a few RPM's to give me more torque everywhere

FWIW here are a few engine's in Car & Driver

Mazdaspeed 6 138 cu in 4 cyl 274 HP 280 tq
suzuki reno 122 cu in 126 hp 131 tq
older/original mini cooper with honda vtec 110 cu in 220 hp 132 tq
cobalt ss 122 cu in 205 hp 200 tq
evo8 122 cu in 276 hp 286 tq
sti 150 cu in 300 hp 300 tq
my 2000 saab viggen 213 whp & 268 wtq
SPG 121 cu in 165 hp 198 tq



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• Who makes the best engines?, J, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:13:25
  • Best bang for the buck........, mcnasty, Sat, 29 Jan 2005 05:40:02
  • Re: Rolls Royce?, t_mokes, Fri, 28 Jan 2005 15:02:21
  • How does it compare to who makes the most?, Mike Lynch , Fri, 28 Jan 2005 12:48:12
  • What?!? No vote for the Hemi?, J, Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:30:32
    • Dude!, Eiron, Fri, 28 Jan 2005 12:46:00
      • Work is great. Social is not so good, though ..., J, Fri, 28 Jan 2005 13:04:51
  • Pow Pow Powerwheels, TheKillerPenguin, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 20:15:23
  • Re: Who makes the best engines?, Spiros Trianta, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 19:07:25
    • Why aren't there turbine motors for street use?, Brian_in_MA, Fri, 28 Jan 2005 06:30:53
      • Cost, cost, and, well, cost, Ari , Fri, 28 Jan 2005 06:56:10
        • thermal efficiency, too, JimBlake , Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:41:52
          • Talk about lack of low end torque!...., Mike Lynch , Fri, 28 Jan 2005 12:43:37
            • Re: Talk about lack of low end torque!...., JimBlake , Fri, 28 Jan 2005 14:25:41
              • Electrics, max torque at zero....., Mike Lynch , Fri, 28 Jan 2005 16:17:03
                • Re: Electrics, max torque at zero....., Spiros Trianta, Sat, 29 Jan 2005 13:32:05
  • What about the GM LSx series, Steve88SiS, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 18:49:28
    • mileage, matt 94 aero, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:02:41
  • Re: Who makes the best engines?, Steve in Chicago, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 18:15:26
  • Re: Who makes the best engines?, danny1940, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:44:31
  • Nissan Twin Turbo inline-6 ;) (skyline) NM, Trev, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 15:43:46
  • Depends on how you define "best.", Noel, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 15:28:00
  • GM's 3800 is my favorite..., jimtimkim, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:51:16
    • It is blown..., bazil burns, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 16:50:52
      • I had one, (sort of), Finch, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 18:26:20
        • Well, it is a 60's design IIRC..., bazil burns, Fri, 28 Jan 2005 03:41:46
  • Re: Who makes the best engines?, Dean, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:49:53
  • Re: Who makes the best engines?, yeppie, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:45:07
  • Re: Who makes the best engines?, GM, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:24:04
    • the RPM for peak torque is what matters, compaqted, Fri, 28 Jan 2005 05:29:37
    • misconception, jeff, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:42:42
      • torque is still a lousy metric, nt moore, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:51:35
        • you need both, jeff, Fri, 28 Jan 2005 05:00:29
        • Passat TDI, nt moore, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 22:00:15
      • Re: misconception, GM, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 20:04:30 <-- Viewing This Message
        • I drove a WRX..., Bob M, Fri, 28 Jan 2005 05:59:00
  • Saab, of course n/m, code08, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:21:06
  • Honda, jeff, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:16:56
    • Second Honda, Pat Hurley, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 15:13:01
      • Re: Third Honda, Aero'ed, Fri, 28 Jan 2005 09:28:40
  • Not that any of us will ever be able to afford it ..., Urby, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:13:59
    • Rotary engines are great,, Finch, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 18:35:54
      • Good point about the oil--, Urby, Fri, 28 Jan 2005 06:42:30
    • Rotaries (Wankels) are not that new, been around since, Red Rocket, Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:21:02

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