Can only agree about the budget cuts, however here in California the classroom and the behind the wheel is *required* to take the written for the drivers permit. then after you have driven 20 hours plus a number of hours after dark (and ALL with a licensed driver over age 25) you can then take the test to get a *provisional* license (after mom and dad sign on the dotted line). You need to pass the drivers, and then take the written again. *Then* you must drive either alone, or with a licensed driver over 25 (which allows you to take other passengers) for 12 months (used to be six months until 1/1/06) and not after midnight, or until you are 18. The drivers behind the wheel test is much as you mentioned, but they don't do a parallel parking like I had to do in Virginia. Virginia put cones out to simulate the car in front and behind you. Hit a cone and you failed baby, no if ands or buts.

But I have taken the little Saab driver out on several extra curricular events, and hope that all parents have the time and inclination to do so.

There is something about driving down the freeway as a passenger and having the driver explain to you what is happening when you hyroplane, what to do and not do, and having the driver put your hand on the wheel to experience what it feels like.

And then there is that "when you go into a skid turn into the direction of the skid to recover..." brainteaser... If a picture is worth a thousand words then actually doing it is worth 10x that...

-soneway

• OT: Two kids killed in a 9-5 in Hopkinton, MA...Issues, turrbo , Mon, 27 Mar 2006 09:12:09
  • training and licenseing changes seem to work, 79-900t , Tue, 28 Mar 2006 16:39:25
  • raise the age, rob 94 cse, Tue, 28 Mar 2006 11:05:22
  • c'mon, 18??, Chris, Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:21:32
    • Re: c'mon, 18??, AdamB , Tue, 28 Mar 2006 14:41:52
    • Bicycle, NickR, Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:23:41
  • Teaching..., Eric Law, Tue, 28 Mar 2006 07:23:15
    • the speeding part.., yaofeng, Tue, 28 Mar 2006 11:16:40
      • Re: the speeding part.., andrew95, Thu, 30 Mar 2006 12:11:03
        • Re: the speeding part.., soneway, Thu, 30 Mar 2006 12:17:40
    • Speak the truth!, ChuckD , Tue, 28 Mar 2006 09:00:49
      • Well said,, SeeVTSaab, Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:19:20
      • defensive driving must be taught, saabnroark , Tue, 28 Mar 2006 09:39:31
  • Re: OT: Two kids killed in a 9-5 in Hopkinton, MA...Issues, dboone, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 22:25:15
  • How about parents that ACTUALLY teach ..., n8, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 21:14:32
    • Agreed, Schu, Tue, 28 Mar 2006 06:16:58
    • How about parents who can ACTUALLY drive themselves?, PT, Tue, 28 Mar 2006 04:42:02
      • Re: How about parents who can ACTUALLY drive themselves, Eric Law, Tue, 28 Mar 2006 04:54:05
  • Progressive license - some states have it, MIke in Anchorage, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 17:53:21
    • MA has something like this..., turrbo , Mon, 27 Mar 2006 21:53:25
  • Re: OT: Two kids killed in a 9-5 in Hopkinton, MA...Issues, SilverAeroGuy, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 12:25:11
    • Re: Driver's ed would be a good first step, AeroDave, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 16:22:12
  • They must really have been moving fast, AdamB , Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:20:34
    • Sounds like..., fsik, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 20:25:59
      • Re: Sounds like..., AdamB , Tue, 28 Mar 2006 06:10:29
        • Re: Sounds like..., fsik, Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:37:21
  • Having real license tests and driver's education, AdamB , Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:16:09
    • It's easier to get a pilot's license in the US, NickR, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:21:01
  • Completely for raising age to 18, NickR, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:07:41
    • In response to Mike and Eric, NickR, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:11:12
      • Hmmm..., Eric Law, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 12:59:38
        • Actually ..., Caspar, Tue, 28 Mar 2006 07:44:05
        • Re: Hmmm..., AdamB , Tue, 28 Mar 2006 06:06:24
        • Re: Hmmm..., IronJoe, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 15:57:18
  • Re: OT: Two kids killed in a 9-5 in Hopkinton, MA, Eric Law, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 10:11:56
    • Re: OT: Two kids killed in a 9-5 in Hopkinton, MA, soneway, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 15:05:05
      • Age of driver vs years of driving, Geoff, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 15:56:13
  • First .we get serious about licensing in general, ChuckD , Mon, 27 Mar 2006 09:23:13
    • Let me tell you what my licensing procedure was like..., turrbo , Mon, 27 Mar 2006 22:09:44
      • What my licensing procedure was like...times 2, SilverAeroGuy, Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:11:38
      • Mine was like this...., Erik, Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:02:17
        • Re: Mine was like this...., soneway, Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:21:15 <-- Viewing This Message
    • I agree, matt 94 aero, Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:52:10
    • raising age doesn't help too much, mike-p., Mon, 27 Mar 2006 09:34:45

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