In Reply to: San Diego Lexus crash by CHP officer..., Mike Lynch [Profile/Gallery] , Thu, 10 Sep 2009 14:14:22

Various manufacturers have "black box" technology that "remembers" key factors about a car's acceleration or speed (or braking force?) before a crash. Don't know what Lexus uses in that regard, and the nature of the crash/fire might have wiped out the ability to retrieve anything.

I'm an Audi guy, dating back to the 80s and the unintended acceleration fiasco. What I remember from that is the knowledge that the brakes can always bring a car to a stop, overcoming the 110 or 162 horsepower of those cars when they were supposedly out of control. But, with HP approaching 400 these days, maybe things have changed.

There's a lot we don't know, and I'm not going to offer speculations. I will just say, however, that it makes one wonder about the wisdom of cars without traditional ignition switches, traditional gear shift levers (gone on many BMWs and Mercedes), and even parking brake levers or foot pedals. In an emergency, I wouldn't know what to push, pull, turn or step on beyond the brake, accelerator and steering wheel if I were in a new Mercedes. In normal conditions those latter three would be enough, but when an unusual emergency arises, I can see how real confusion could develop.

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• San Diego Lexus crash by CHP officer..., Mike Lynch , Thu, 10 Sep 2009 14:14:22
  • Baffling...there's gotta be a backstory here. N/M., Leif Åke, Sat, 12 Sep 2009 17:00:56
    • I agree! n/m, Street, Sun, 13 Sep 2009 14:50:06
  • Re: San Diego Lexus crash by CHP officer..., Otis, Fri, 11 Sep 2009 17:09:54 <-- Viewing This Message
  • Very sad, AdamB , Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:03:46
    • Re: Very sad, oldsaab, Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:51:42
      • Re: Very sad, AdamB , Sat, 12 Sep 2009 05:33:21
      • Yes, delayed downshifts used to be designed in......., MI-Roger , Fri, 11 Sep 2009 17:02:24
        • Re: Yes, delayed downshifts used to be designed in......., BlaaSaab, Sat, 12 Sep 2009 11:27:28
          • Re: Maybe neutral is dissallowed at speed??, JimBlake , Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:04:52
  • Sad..., Eric Law, Fri, 11 Sep 2009 09:47:14
  • Re: San Diego Lexus crash by CHP officer..., SWEDECAR , Fri, 11 Sep 2009 09:25:08
    • And that is why I will never skydive...., KB900psi, Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:12:14
      • One more try, KB900psi, Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:14:08
  • Shift to Neutral!, Paul H, Fri, 11 Sep 2009 08:19:07
  • 2 words : Automatics suck. row your own. n/m, 91Aero.jr, Fri, 11 Sep 2009 06:31:40
  • Three seconds kill switch is fundamentally flawed..., Street, Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:44:57
    • Sure is! Terrible for the officer's family., Noel, Thu, 10 Sep 2009 20:25:53
  • Floormat thing happened to me..., turrbo , Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:53:40
    • Brakes overheated and lost their effectiveness, 2000AERO, Thu, 10 Sep 2009 19:20:13
    • Brakes..., Mike Lynch , Thu, 10 Sep 2009 19:11:56
  • Re: San Diego Lexus crash by CHP officer..., Rizzlius, Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:19:53
  • Re: San Diego Lexus crash by CHP officer..., EGD , Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:09:35
    • GPS coordinates of where it all ended, AeroBaron, Thu, 10 Sep 2009 19:59:16
  • Re: San Diego Lexus crash by CHP officer..., CWilson, Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:08:32
    • Killed by his own stupidity....., Mark from Toronto, Fri, 11 Sep 2009 00:25:44
      • Nice talk of the Dead Mr. Armchair QB, oldsaab, Fri, 11 Sep 2009 05:43:51
        • Just PUT IT IN NEUTRAL!!! WTF, Mark from Toronto, Fri, 11 Sep 2009 20:09:35
          • Watch yourself - check the facts, BlaaSaab, Sat, 12 Sep 2009 11:43:55
            • Re: Watch yourself - check the facts, mark from toronto, Sat, 12 Sep 2009 23:27:14
        • Re: Nice talk of the Dead Mr. Armchair QB, stan, Fri, 11 Sep 2009 16:34:37

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