Here's a prime example of a roll reversal. Go look at a new Toyota Tundra and then go look at a new Dodge Ram. The differences are amazing, and not in the way you would think. The Tundra is embarrassing - I'm shocked that Toyota would put out a product that is so horribly cheap both in materials used and build quality. The Dodge on the other hand is very, very impressive. Quality materials, and decent fit and finish. I was shocked.

And don't think that I'm some huge Dodge (or any other American car manufacturer) fan and that I hate Toyota (or any other Japanese manufactures). To this day I swear the best car I ever owned has been my 1996 Toyota Corolla but in the past ten years Toyota has really dropped the ball. We were shopping for a new car for my wife about two years ago and looked at the Camry. I was shocked at how poor that car was built; the interior was a joke.

Seriously, if anyone thinks that Toyota still has "it", they obviously haven't stepped into a showroom in years. The only decent product on the Toyota lots anymore is the Land Cruiser - the fit and finish of that is still very impressive. I've predicted that Toyota is going to run into the same issues that GM has has in the past several years by trying to be the biggest. Too much cost cutting and a lack of focus is going to (and even Toyota executives have already admitted this) bite them in the end.

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• US automaker sales results Sept., dtech, Fri, 2 Oct 2009 12:06:03
  • GM seems to be doing fine now regarding product..., Alex, Sat, 3 Oct 2009 12:07:20
    • Re: GM seems to be doing fine now regarding product..., Justin VanAbrahams , Tue, 6 Oct 2009 21:49:12
      • Caprice and the police, Noel, Wed, 7 Oct 2009 08:03:36
    • Long time GM driver, but no current cars I would buy., MI-Roger , Sat, 3 Oct 2009 15:25:28
      • Ouch!, CY, Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:32:24
        • I can remember when Buicks were cool......, MI-Roger , Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:30:14
      • Buick, Railhead , Sun, 4 Oct 2009 02:18:38
    • Somewhat agree, but withholding judgement., Noel, Sat, 3 Oct 2009 14:35:56
  • This is a great thread. Japan makes good stuff but, Noel, Sat, 3 Oct 2009 05:56:48
  • Maybe, nwas, Fri, 2 Oct 2009 14:26:09
    • Re: Maybe, sam96CS , Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:25:50
    • Can we give this whole Deming / Japan love fest a rest?, AeroBaron, Fri, 2 Oct 2009 14:52:31
      • You missed the point, nwas, Sat, 3 Oct 2009 00:04:04
      • True that, Craig, Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:06:08
        • Re: True that, TML , Fri, 2 Oct 2009 21:54:19
        • Re: True that, EGD , Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:01:42
          • Yeah, "one price" was Saturn's original sales tactic,, Bill Homer , Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:46:49
            • Coming from the factory..., CY, Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:55:13
            • Re: Yeah, "one price" was Saturn's original sales tactic,, EGD , Sat, 3 Oct 2009 06:41:12
              • I don't believe that you can bypass the dealers,, Bill Homer , Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:55:04
      • Times are a changin', CWilson, Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:59:50 <-- Viewing This Message
        • Re: Times are a changin', Justin VanAbrahams , Fri, 2 Oct 2009 23:52:40
          • And I should note..., CWilson, Sat, 3 Oct 2009 09:07:07
          • Long term reliability and durability., CWilson, Sat, 3 Oct 2009 06:25:18
            • The Koreans are gettin good at making boring appliances, Alex, Sat, 3 Oct 2009 12:16:06
              • Yep. Hyundais aren't bad at all., Noel, Sun, 4 Oct 2009 08:46:41
            • Re: Long term reliability and durability., dtech, Sat, 3 Oct 2009 07:51:36
        • Re: Times are a changin', sclifford, Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:25:29
          • Toyota is definitely coasting on their reputation..., Alex, Sat, 3 Oct 2009 12:11:54
          • Reputation takes time to change, Tim, Fri, 2 Oct 2009 20:57:33

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