I agree with Brad on the ethics. I hope that all of my posts here in this thread don't reflect in anyway that Saab is responsible for Stev's tuning. I don't think that the dealer should pay for the problem, if they have proof that it was modified. I am mostly concerned in the tuning issue, when it comes to the 235 in general. It kinda makes me nervous knowing that you can spend a lot of money on good software and quality components,(that will easily set you back $3-5k), only to have a piston break at an 18% power increase. If what Vigge said about the pistons in Sweden being different and changing year to year is accurate, maybe SCUSA doesn't know about the problem yet, due to so few Saab tuners out there pushing the envelope in late model warrantable cars? Maybe there is a chance of defect in some of those early pistons?
I kinda doubt that Steve really thinks in his heart that SCUSA is responsible for his engine. He is probably just very frustrated at the idea that so many of us here have tuned our cars way up, and never have any major problems, but now he has a major expense to swallow and down-time to deal with. I guess I just feel sorry for Steve. Scusa is usually very supportive, maybe if Steve does the engine work there, he can get a dealer loaner still. I suppose that it's better than nothing.

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• Saab's not gonna cover it!!, Steve88SiS, Thu, 15 Apr 2004 14:57:16
  • Maybe I should get a rwd V8 car w/ a blower - nah!!, Steve88SiS, Fri, 16 Apr 2004 17:48:04
    • come on steve...go all out!!, nickR, Fri, 16 Apr 2004 19:45:29
      • It will be interesting, but my car will be ......, KevinY, Sat, 17 Apr 2004 22:39:51
        • Re: It will be interesting, but my car will be ......, TERRY, Sat, 17 Apr 2004 23:01:15
  • I would negotiate, davenew, Fri, 16 Apr 2004 15:35:00
    • Boost was 18psi a/f ratio was good, Steve88SiS, Fri, 16 Apr 2004 17:45:07
      • Re: Boost was 18psi a/f ratio was good, Brad, Fri, 16 Apr 2004 18:52:43
        • torque limit, davenew, Sat, 17 Apr 2004 14:36:52
  • My Viggen story, Philip HS, Fri, 16 Apr 2004 11:38:44
    • 2004 viggen?, nickR, Fri, 16 Apr 2004 12:25:10
      • Re: 2004 viggen?, AdamB , Sat, 17 Apr 2004 03:25:42
      • more on forged pistons, nickR, Fri, 16 Apr 2004 12:29:19
        • Re: more on forged pistons, Philip HS, Fri, 16 Apr 2004 14:08:23
  • Re: Saab's not gonna cover it!!, serendipity, Fri, 16 Apr 2004 07:47:15
  • I should keep my thoughts to my self but, Brad, Fri, 16 Apr 2004 06:02:11
    • More things I should not say, Brad, Fri, 16 Apr 2004 09:21:30
      • Re: More things I should not say, TERRY, Fri, 16 Apr 2004 11:57:48 <-- Viewing This Message
      • Re: More things I should not say, Dean, Fri, 16 Apr 2004 09:33:04
        • Re: More things I should not say, Brad, Fri, 16 Apr 2004 10:01:11
          • Dean, I posted some info about my IC experiences, Vigge, Fri, 16 Apr 2004 10:50:14
          • Re: More things I should not say, jak , Fri, 16 Apr 2004 10:40:47
    • dont blame SQR, nickR, Fri, 16 Apr 2004 08:37:01
    • Most ecu tuner do cover the cost, ckpaden, Fri, 16 Apr 2004 08:02:05
      • Chipcenter offers gaurantee, nickR, Fri, 16 Apr 2004 08:34:31
    • I'm not buying SQR..., DaveD, Fri, 16 Apr 2004 07:56:49
      • I just had it on a dyno & A/F was 12:1 to redline, Steve88SiS, Fri, 16 Apr 2004 17:35:20
      • I met frank & watched while....., jak , Fri, 16 Apr 2004 09:38:22
      • SQR is awesome, period., TERRY, Fri, 16 Apr 2004 09:00:02
        • Some clarification, Vigge, Fri, 16 Apr 2004 12:43:50
          • Re: Some clarification, TERRY, Fri, 16 Apr 2004 13:22:26
            • Re: Some clarification, Vigge, Fri, 16 Apr 2004 14:20:09
              • Re: Some clarification, TERRY, Fri, 16 Apr 2004 16:02:44
                • Re: Some clarification, Vigge, Sat, 17 Apr 2004 00:25:55
      • Re: I'm not buying SQR..., ckpaden, Fri, 16 Apr 2004 08:03:56
        • Re: I'm not buying SQR..., ed smith, Fri, 16 Apr 2004 17:27:20
  • You haven't asked, but I have to disagree with your, MichaelG, Thu, 15 Apr 2004 19:30:51
    • SAAB does watch these BBs..., WASSAAB, Fri, 16 Apr 2004 11:09:40
      • Re: SAAB does watch these BBs..., Harpua, Sun, 18 Apr 2004 11:31:09
        • Harpua, who is that?? Funny regardless. :o) n/m, TERRY, Sun, 18 Apr 2004 21:15:59
          • Re: Harpua, who is that?? Funny regardless. :o) n/m, Harpua, Sun, 18 Apr 2004 21:23:44
    • Re: You haven't asked, but I have to disagree with your, john, Thu, 15 Apr 2004 19:46:45
  • Arbitration?, ckpaden, Thu, 15 Apr 2004 19:19:40
    • careful here...., MichaelG, Thu, 15 Apr 2004 19:33:17
      • Eagle talon, ckpaden, Fri, 16 Apr 2004 07:58:20
  • Re: Saab's not gonna cover it!!, steve, Thu, 15 Apr 2004 18:47:36
    • I understand Steve's frustration.....(longish), TERRY, Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:34:00
      • You're assuming that there wasn't a glitch, AdamB , Fri, 16 Apr 2004 02:42:52
        • Re: You're assuming that there wasn't a glitch, TERRY, Fri, 16 Apr 2004 09:09:02
        • Re: You're assuming that there wasn't a glitch, Vigge, Fri, 16 Apr 2004 05:27:34
          • I stand corrected, AdamB , Sat, 17 Apr 2004 03:14:00
          • GOOD PIC !!!!!This is EXACTLY what I was talking about!, TERRY, Fri, 16 Apr 2004 08:48:36
          • Re: You're assuming that there wasn't a glitch, BrianS, Fri, 16 Apr 2004 07:18:47
      • come to think of it, steveC, Thu, 15 Apr 2004 22:18:43
  • Re: Saab's not gonna cover it!!, TERRY, Thu, 15 Apr 2004 16:39:09
  • that too bad:-(...however, steveC, Thu, 15 Apr 2004 16:34:07
  • I feel for you, nickR, Thu, 15 Apr 2004 16:05:34
    • ...that was "financial" damage I was referring to, nickR, Thu, 15 Apr 2004 16:06:34
  • Not to rub salt in your wound..., AdamB , Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:44:57
  • sorry to hear the bad news, but I wouldn't blame Saab, Chad B, Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:20:19
    • Re: sorry to hear the bad news, but I wouldn't blame Saab, ed smith, Thu, 15 Apr 2004 17:24:32

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