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According to Industry Publication Posted by Tim (more from Tim) on Mon, 26 Sep 2011 16:57:56

In Reply to: snow tires 30% more traction than no-season??, AdamB

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The 30% estimate come from industry publication. I tend to believe that particular number because I have first-hand experience with 60% vehicle weight being on two wheels shod with dedicated snow tires and the car being stuck, where as all-season on an AWD getting going without any difficulty.

Summer tires obviously are very different from all-season tires. There are also significant differences among all-seasons. The "premium" all seasons are the high performance all seasons; that's not the type you want in snow and ice. The less expensive all-season "touring," "grand touring" or even "all season passenger tires" are much better bets in snow and ice . . . and they are the vast majority of all season tires sold, no the "premium" all season designed for high performance in the other 3 seasons.

As for "as long as you know what you are doing," we here in the northern US get much colder and more icy winters than North Sea and southern Baltic coasts. Snow banks are often the only place available for parking. You either take that spot, or spend half a day circling the blocks looking for a better parking spot. My own drive way became fully covered by snow/ice every year in the last few years . . . simply because the plow guy ran out of space to put snow, and had to spread it around and hope for the best. It's also a common sight to see all 3 of my vehicles surrounded by foot-deep snow over night. Digging the convertible out would be hopeless (so I have been leaving it in the garage). Digging the wagon with snow tires out would be iffy as it would quickly drive onto snow/ice bank on its way out in late winter (solid black ice under new snow) and get stuck there. The Highlander AWD shod in all-season tires can usually get out without digging at all after removing snow on the windows and roof. It also does a reasonably good job pulling the other two out when necessary.

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Posts in this Thread:

Snow tires: four of a kind vs two of a pair, Noel, Thu, 22 Sep 2011 11:41:03
- Gee, tirerack rec's buying 4 instead of 2 - shocker!, nwas, Thu, 22 Sep 2011 18:14:20
- Summer tire idiots, Kristjan , Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:38:35
  - many seem to not be noticing all-season vs summer, AeroEd, Thu, 22 Sep 2011 17:59:00
  - Get a set, No Snaab, Thu, 22 Sep 2011 17:11:24
  - Re: Summer tire idiots, EGD , Thu, 22 Sep 2011 16:27:17
  - Re: Summer tire idiots - really?, Skip, Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:39:21
    - You? Not likely, but the person rear-ending you is, Kristjan , Thu, 22 Sep 2011 16:21:25
      - That concerns me even though I use snow tires, MI-Roger , Thu, 22 Sep 2011 17:20:40
  - Re: Summer tire idiots. Yep., Noel, Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:27:44
    - In terms of avoiding getting stuck, Tim, Fri, 23 Sep 2011 05:12:37
      - snow tires 30% more traction than no-season??, AdamB , Sat, 24 Sep 2011 11:31:51
        According to Industry Publication, Tim, Mon, 26 Sep 2011 16:57:56 <-- Viewing This Message
        Can you cite the publication?, Noel, Tue, 27 Sep 2011 09:20:03
        Different results here, Bill Homer , Tue, 27 Sep 2011 07:55:29
        Re: Different results here, JimBlake , Tue, 27 Sep 2011 08:39:35
      - Re: In terms of avoiding getting stuck, James, Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:00:35
        This is 2011, not 2001, Tim, Fri, 23 Sep 2011 20:41:56
        Re: This is 2011, not 2001, James, Sat, 24 Sep 2011 04:21:34
        Re: This is 2011, not 2001, Tim, Sat, 24 Sep 2011 06:27:21
        Re: This is 2011, not 2001, James, Sat, 24 Sep 2011 08:13:03
        Re: This is 2011, not 2001, Tim, Sat, 24 Sep 2011 22:35:21
        The nut behind the wheel is still the weakest link, Noel, Sat, 24 Sep 2011 06:19:39
        Not under most circumstances., Tim, Sat, 24 Sep 2011 06:35:34
      - Re: In terms of avoiding getting stuck, Noel, Fri, 23 Sep 2011 06:34:57
        95%, Tim, Fri, 23 Sep 2011 07:49:46
        95% of SUV/Pickup drivers are idiots, nwas, Fri, 23 Sep 2011 13:36:31
        Re: 95% of SUV/Pickup drivers are idiots, Tim, Fri, 23 Sep 2011 20:23:11
        Did you really just compare an SUV to civil rights?, Craig, Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:22:08
        Re: Did you really just compare an SUV to civil rights?, Tim, Fri, 23 Sep 2011 20:34:14
        You've got to lay off the race stuff, Craig, Sat, 24 Sep 2011 11:12:46
        Stop the knee-jerk reaction, Tim, Sat, 24 Sep 2011 21:45:27
        Re: Stop the knee-jerk reaction, Tim, Sat, 24 Sep 2011 22:16:49
        What I don't like about SUVs, Noel, Sun, 25 Sep 2011 06:52:24
        If that's the concern, Tim, Sun, 25 Sep 2011 18:51:00
        danger to cyclists etc.., James, Tue, 27 Sep 2011 07:48:46
        Thank you, Craig! n/m, Noel, Sat, 24 Sep 2011 16:49:41
        smells like a steak + seats 35... Canyonero!, James, Fri, 23 Sep 2011 08:54:01
        Yes, in a free country, Tim, Fri, 23 Sep 2011 20:36:46
        probably more than half of all new..., James, Sat, 24 Sep 2011 04:28:29
        Re: probably more than half of all new..., Tim, Sat, 24 Sep 2011 06:11:50
    - I largely agree also..., James, Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:45:18

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