[Main General Bulletin Board | BBFAQ | Prev by Date | Next by Date | Post Followup ] Member Login / Signup - Members see fewer ads. - Latest Member Gallery Photos yeah... Like This Post: - Subscribe to Daily Digest for this Bulletin Board Posted by Justin VanAbrahams [Email] (#32) [Profile/Gallery] (more from Justin VanAbrahams) on Mon, 10 Oct 2005 14:20:47 In Reply to: True, but..., PhillySaaber, Mon, 10 Oct 2005 12:00:29 Alert me when someone posts in this thread: Members do not see ads below this line. - Help Keep This Site Online - Signup

I was having a discussion with a buddy of mine on this topic just the other day. We're both IT-types - unionless, and I'd say generally taken advantage of. I don't get retirement, I don't get severence following a layoff. Hell, I don't get weekends, or nights for that matter. I am on-call 24x7, and the second someone with $5,000 buys their MSCE or CNA from a vocational school, I get a pay cut or a lay off since "qualified personnel are available for less money." Under California and Federal law normal salary/hourly criteria does not apply to me, and I am almost universally exempt - meaning I don't have to worry about 40-hour workweek limits, or getting paid pesky overtime.

IT workers are the blue collar workers of the 21st century. I keep my job by being smarter and agreeing to work harder than the next guy. I make my employers see it my way by doing things others can't, and by proving how invaluable I am to them on a daily basis.

Did unions serve their purpose? Sure they did. But like any big bureaucratic organization, their original goal of better conditions for workers have been replaced with the same goal that all big organizations have: Protect themselves at any cost. Banning or outlawing unions would certainly be the wrong choice, but compulsory membership isn't good for anyone.

My very limited $0.02...

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• Delphi Corp files for Chapter 11, saw, Sun, 9 Oct 2005 21:38:20
  • while i tend to agree that unions (ok, this got long..), baggsly , Tue, 11 Oct 2005 12:00:47
  • Unions..., PhillySaaber, Mon, 10 Oct 2005 08:45:03
  • Re: Delphi Corp files for Chapter 11, 2 9-5's, Mon, 10 Oct 2005 07:44:25
    • Re: Delphi Corp files for Chapter 11, BobH, Mon, 10 Oct 2005 11:01:24
    • Gee, why don't you say what you think!?, Noel, Mon, 10 Oct 2005 08:37:24
    • The 'scumbag unions'?, BrianG, Mon, 10 Oct 2005 08:16:53
      • Union is a legacy of monopoly, Jim, Mon, 10 Oct 2005 15:40:31
        • There is much less competetion today in many ways, saw, Mon, 10 Oct 2005 16:34:13
          • Labor Union is not a check to monopoly, Jim, Tue, 11 Oct 2005 09:24:50
            • Re: Labor Union is not a check to monopoly, saw, Tue, 11 Oct 2005 10:22:14
              • Re: Labor Union is not a check to monopoly, Jim, Tue, 11 Oct 2005 14:06:30
        • Re: Union is a legacy of monopoly, John Schreiber, Mon, 10 Oct 2005 16:16:13
          • Re: Union is a legacy of monopoly, Jim, Tue, 11 Oct 2005 09:32:45
      • Unions and the Labor Movement ..., Nicholas.Wood, Mon, 10 Oct 2005 09:41:51
        • Right to Work helps., SaabHubby, Tue, 11 Oct 2005 08:29:20
        • Union Pay vs. minimum wage, Union Member, Mon, 10 Oct 2005 15:11:48
        • True, but..., PhillySaaber, Mon, 10 Oct 2005 12:00:29
          • yeah..., Justin VanAbrahams , Mon, 10 Oct 2005 14:20:47 <-- Viewing This Message
            • Hear, Hear!!, EW, Mon, 10 Oct 2005 20:50:17
              • Re: Hear, Hear!!, Avanti, Tue, 11 Oct 2005 04:07:06

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