Even if you think that all environmental groups are determined to destroy your God-given right to an sacrifice-free life, there are a few absolute realities in place. At least I hope that these are absolutes, if not, I'm sure someone will correct me.
1. The USA uses a lot of oil. Probably more per capita than any other country, and we're a large country.
2. The USA needs to import most of the oil that it consumes.
3. The Middle East produces a significant portion of the oil that is exported throughout the world.
4. There are many groups in the Middle East that receive significant revenue from oil exports.
5. Many of these groups consider the USA their enemy, or the enemy of their friends, or the friend of their enemies.
6. The USA went to war with Iraq (a Middle-Eastern country which at that time had significant oil revenues), a country that it conceived as a threat, because of expensive weapons and power that it may or may not have had.
7. President Bush yesterday informed the USA that there is still much work to do in Iraq, that requires sacrifices from all of us.
8. Over 3,000 brave men and women have died from combat in Iraq, tens-of-thousands more have been seriously debilitated, hundreds-of-thousands families have had their lives turned upside down because of this war.
9. Other than these families, the only "sacrifices" that most of the rest of us are experiencing is the massive debt (current spending, and future spending to take car of all these damaged veterans), which we'll primarily be passing on to our children.
10. Every patriot in the USA should be pushing to lessen our dependence upon fossil fuels, for this generation and future generations.
Ed
2002 Aero SW
1999 SE(4)

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• Is it hard being green?, Noel, Mon, 7 Apr 2008 07:10:36
  • yes, but necessary, Aero'ed, Fri, 11 Apr 2008 06:12:01 <-- Viewing This Message
  • I have no interest in "being green", CarterB, Tue, 8 Apr 2008 19:02:29
    • ahh, infinite resources and no cause-effect, Aero'ed, Tue, 8 Apr 2008 20:31:47
      • Not really..., CarterB, Wed, 9 Apr 2008 12:16:42
  • Carbon vs hunger..., Mike Lynch , Tue, 8 Apr 2008 14:45:45
    • Ethanol as a fuel source, AdamB , Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:48:17
    • Mostly agree..., Noel, Tue, 8 Apr 2008 17:11:38
      • Change IS normal..., dSPG89, Tue, 8 Apr 2008 19:45:53
        • Re: Change IS normal..., Caarma , Tue, 8 Apr 2008 20:54:44
          • Make that Human-caused change is normal..., Noel, Wed, 9 Apr 2008 05:17:51
            • Naturally occurring change is normal too, Caarma , Wed, 9 Apr 2008 06:54:02
              • Yes, naturally occurring change is normal too., Noel, Wed, 9 Apr 2008 08:45:04
                • Well spoken both...., dSPG89, Wed, 9 Apr 2008 16:08:16
                  • Re: Well spoken both...., Noel, Thu, 10 Apr 2008 06:21:44
    • The answer to being green and feeding the hungry..., Caarma , Tue, 8 Apr 2008 15:00:03
  • Some great answers here. Thanks., Noel, Tue, 8 Apr 2008 12:52:03
  • Kermit's fingers..., Mike Lynch , Tue, 8 Apr 2008 11:01:44
    • Re: Kermit's fingers..., Noel, Tue, 8 Apr 2008 12:52:58
  • depends on just how green you are talking..., nicknick , Tue, 8 Apr 2008 08:31:13
  • Buying new products versus keeping old ones, Caarma , Tue, 8 Apr 2008 07:57:49
  • Really hard in my opinion, Wasabi, Mon, 7 Apr 2008 10:42:38
    • Re: Really hard in my opinion, cfishgo, Tue, 8 Apr 2008 13:44:35
      • Yes and no, patm, Wed, 9 Apr 2008 12:02:07
        • I know a guy with a Merc E350 that, Noel, Wed, 9 Apr 2008 15:14:48
          • What year/generation?, Caarma , Wed, 9 Apr 2008 15:29:05
            • Not sure. Recent model though, as he, Noel, Thu, 10 Apr 2008 07:30:55
    • Re: Really hard in my opinion, Mattias.se, Tue, 8 Apr 2008 06:23:40
    • Re: Really hard in my opinion - lonish, xhawksaab, Mon, 7 Apr 2008 13:29:47
  • Greater Good, OKSaabs, Mon, 7 Apr 2008 09:16:54
    • Re: Greater Good, EGD , Mon, 7 Apr 2008 15:27:06
      • Re: Greater Good, EGD , Mon, 7 Apr 2008 16:00:40
  • Re: Is it hard being green?, jp, Mon, 7 Apr 2008 08:17:49
  • Re: Is it hard being green?, Nick Taliaferro , Mon, 7 Apr 2008 07:16:43
    • Similar, Mike NY, Mon, 7 Apr 2008 11:07:24

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