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Not wrong Posted by nwas (more from nwas) on Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:10:54

In Reply to: Wrong!, CrNiFe

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If what you claim is true (about control), then explain why most performance cars are set up to oversteer, rather than understeer (lacking the ability to achieve perfect balance/drift). Explain why RWD and throttle steer are a serious FEATURE in most road racing. YOU may prefer understeer: it doesn't make a car drive better.

In addition, when dealing with snow, you want traction on the driving wheels. If you can't move forward in snow, the steering issue is moot.

As I noted earlier, most drivers prefer understeer, and most vehicles come out of the factory set up that way. That still doesn't make it better.

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Another steenkin snow tire Q, KevinM, Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:20:42
- I love TSN but you people are really unbelievable, Sebastian, Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:18:51
- Rear whipping effect on FWD cars, boramiNYC, Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:02:44
- Re: Another steenkin snow tire Q, jp498, Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:42:16
  - Re: Another steenkin snow tire Q, KevinM, Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:53:25
- Re: Another steenkin snow tire Q, KevinM, Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:39:11
- Best tires should be on the back (+), vvk, Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:01:50
- 60%braking and 100% accel comes from front so...., Used to be Chaz, Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:26:25
  - Re: 60%braking and 100% accel comes from front so...., Coggs, Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:53:18
    - Re: those %-ages go out the window when it's slippery, JimBlake , Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:01:53
- I am speechless., dmz789abc, Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:28:57
  - Re: I am speechless., Bill Davies, Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:52:40
  - Re: I am speechless., Dan S., Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:00:49
  - Don't be. Think., Noel, Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:58:01
    - Stability trumps work everytime..., Mike Lynch , Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:44:37
      - Gee, Mike, I was missing you on this one..., Noel, Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:04:39
        Exactly... oversteer is easy and safer in the Winter, nwas, Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:03:52
        Don;t know when you took a drivers course recently, but, TG, Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:56:28
        I meant, as you know, normal driver's ed classes., Noel, Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:59:01
    - Why not replace all four and be done with it?, bender , Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:43:00
      - Agreed., turrbo , Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:15:29
    - Re: Don't be. Think., TML , Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:59:41
      - Re: Same question over and over, Noel, Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:13:02
    - Yes, keep thinking..., dmz789abc, Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:46:58
      - Oversteer may be unstable but, Noel, Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:14:49
        Re: Oversteer may be unstable but, JimBlake , Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:44:55
        Oversteer is unstable to most, TG, Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:19:33
      - Note the words "average driver" in your post n/m, nwas, Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:14:29
        What you say does not qualify you as above average., dmz789abc, Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:56:40
        Oh, pardon me, nwas, Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:44:02
  - I agree, see my response n/b, CrNiFe , Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:19:51
- put your best foot forward, Dale, Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:08:36
- front vs.rear, nwas, Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:29:57
  - Re: front vs.rear, Coggs, Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:09:33
    - Wrong!, CrNiFe , Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:19:13
      - Not wrong, nwas, Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:10:54 <-- Viewing This Message
      - Knew I'd get flamed <g>, Coggs, Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:55:50
        I get flamed on this with great regularity!!, Noel, Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:50:16
        You're so right., Dale, Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:54:45
        Re: Dale's point is VERY important, JimBlake , Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:33:46
        Yes!, Noel, Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:00:02
- yes, 2 tires are ok, zef95, Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:41:34
  - You might be surprised w/ Honda's performance in snow, Bill Homer , Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:49:35
    - Darn those pronouns!, KevinM, Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:04:30
      - Definitely buy all four >, Bill Davies, Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:43:36
        Re: Definitely buy all four >, KevinM, Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:28:47
    - depends how deep?, James, Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:30:30

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