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You still workin' on that hun?
Posted by No Snaab (more from No Snaab) on Wed, 3 Oct 2012 05:41:33
In Reply to: Plug-in's running on Li-Ion batteries are irrelevant, Reality, Mon, 1 Oct 2012 07:13:05
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As far as this discussion goes you should take the few meager scraps left on your plate, put them in a doggy bag and go home. You're really grasping at straws here.
Regardless of how good or bad they are, the Volt and Prius PHV have similar technology, and are comparable in every way including price. By price I mean the number on the window sticker, not all the other stuff you try to pile on. The Prius uses very different technology by your own admission and isn't comparable. If the discussion is "economical cars" than yes the Prius, other Hybrids, diesels and other cars are on the table. If the discussion is "plug-in hybrids" as it is here, then there's only two to discuss. Also Toyota calls the PHV version a "Prius" so I have no idea why you're splitting hairs on the distinction.
You finally admit we can compare the Volt to the Prius PHV (something you insisted we couldn't)but only the base version with less equipment because because it doesn't get the same mileage and have the same resale value? Utter nonsense and resale value has yet to be determined.
Finally you say people want good gas mileage--wrong. When it comes to plug-ins what people want in good ELECTRIC mileage and that's what the Volt does well and better than the Toyota. Depending on your commute, you could conceivably go for months and not use ANY gas. In fact, theoretically you could never use any gas and just use the engine for backup. That has to be factored into the 37 MPG (and is less than intellectually honest on your part). Yes if you do a lot of long trips than the Prius PHV or regular Prius (for less money) would be the way to go. And in fact that's exactly how Volt owners tend too use them--I beleive they have a web site where they compete to see who can do the most driving in electric mode.
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Posts in this Thread:
- Chevy Volt outsells half of all US cars., JohnA
, Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:30:10- Why gasoline wins, JohnA
, Sat, 29 Sep 2012 19:29:35 - Front half or back half? n/m, Cmyles
, Tue, 25 Sep 2012 15:01:00 - Domestic electricity vs. imported oil., dmz789qqq, Mon, 24 Sep 2012 03:49:03
- By that logic, a sledge hammer can really add value, Tim, Tue, 25 Sep 2012 15:00:08
- Re: Domestic electricity vs. imported oil., Ben, Mon, 24 Sep 2012 20:19:41
- By that logic, a sledge hammer can really add value, Reality, Mon, 24 Sep 2012 15:29:43
- I pity you ..., dmz789qqq, Mon, 24 Sep 2012 18:54:17
- You don't want to be confused by facts, Tim, Tue, 25 Sep 2012 15:01:13
- You don't want to be confused by facts, Reality, Mon, 24 Sep 2012 19:59:57
- Here's a fact for you, Volt is cheaper than the Prius, No Snaab, Thu, 27 Sep 2012 04:54:38
- Uh oh! Tim and Reality are sharing identities again!, Noel, Tue, 25 Sep 2012 17:26:01
- Someone is pretending to be Tim and copying my posts, Reality, Wed, 26 Sep 2012 11:19:03
- actually, they DO have authorization, Tim, Wed, 26 Sep 2012 12:26:51
- Re: actually, they DO have authorization, TML
, Thu, 27 Sep 2012 01:02:59 - There, Ridiculous has committed Identity Theft, Tim, Thu, 27 Sep 2012 00:05:33
- Re: There, Ridiculous has committed Identity Theft, Scott Paterson
, Thu, 27 Sep 2012 11:01:34 - Identity, uniqueness, freewill, etc..., Snowmobile
, Thu, 27 Sep 2012 06:45:45
- Re: Domestic electricity vs. imported oil., jeff in MD really, Mon, 24 Sep 2012 07:03:11
- Domestic oil vs. imported oil, JerseySaab
, Mon, 24 Sep 2012 04:35:47
- Build ahead for downtime, + election year shenanigans., Norm9-5, Sun, 23 Sep 2012 14:19:38
- What I don't get is why people here hate the Volt, Noel, Sun, 23 Sep 2012 06:30:46
- Devil's Advocate: "Something like a $45,000 Cruze", Bill Homer, Sun, 23 Sep 2012 07:27:31
- The Volt isn't an ROI sell, Pete Saab 9-3 9-7, Mon, 24 Sep 2012 09:45:34
- I get all that, and the Volt is definitely overpriced.., Noel, Sun, 23 Sep 2012 09:02:51
- Some people are committed early adopters., Cary, Sun, 23 Sep 2012 07:51:27
- Re: What I don't get is why people here hate the Volt, JohnA
, Sun, 23 Sep 2012 07:25:56 - Re: What I don't get is why people here hate the Volt, jeff in MD, Sun, 23 Sep 2012 06:51:05
- How many could they sell at a profit?, JerseySaab
, Sun, 23 Sep 2012 05:58:14 - great spin, jeff in MD, Sat, 22 Sep 2012 16:53:06
- Re: great spin, friendofbear
, Sat, 22 Sep 2012 21:14:41- They want the "free" money, Reality, Sun, 23 Sep 2012 02:33:41
- big loss per car sold, saabsince 93b
, Sun, 23 Sep 2012 11:28:45 - big loss per car sold, saabsince 93b
, Sun, 23 Sep 2012 08:20:57- Depends on how you account for the $$, Mark from Toronto, Sun, 23 Sep 2012 08:41:10
- GM's accounting is suspect, Bill Homer, Sun, 23 Sep 2012 10:18:55
- the analysis, saabsince 93b
, Sun, 23 Sep 2012 10:36:58- Similar analysis will result in $200k losses on 9-5s., dmz789qqq, Mon, 24 Sep 2012 06:39:48
- Google, Norm9-5, Sun, 23 Sep 2012 15:10:06
- The analysis is hugley biased, Noel, Sun, 23 Sep 2012 13:50:55
- Re: the analysis, Simon S, Sun, 23 Sep 2012 11:53:16
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