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Re: more negatives than positives? Posted by AeroEd [Email] (more from AeroEd) on Fri, 19 Sep 2014 09:47:19

In Reply to: Road & Track highlights more negatives than positives., Norm9-5, Fri, 19 Sep 2014 06:06:51 Members do not see ads below this line. - Help Keep This Site Online - Signup

let's see
1. We're still waiting for the Legend ...
- they don't like the name, I guess a NEG, albeit minor and arguable
2. The TLX is two cars in one
- smaller volumes, NEG
3. New engines, new transmissions
- loved the 2.4 combo, not so much the 3.5, a DRAW
4. Ignore the X, unless it also says SH-AWD
- love the AWD system (wished available with the 2.4) a POS
5. Superb suspension
- heading says it all, a POS
6. Terrible tires
- heading says it all, a NEG, but tires are consumables, and they do note an increase in mpg, perhaps partly because of the tires
7. Hush hush
- very quiet, a POS
8. Distracting touchscreen
- heading says it all, a NEG
9. The driver assistance systems need ... assistance
- heading says it all, a NEG
10. Multiple personalities, one clear winner
- love the 2.4 combo, not so the 3.5, a DRAW

So we add them up, and perhaps five NEG's to three POS's, but...
IF you go with the 2.4 (which doesn't offer the SH-AWD), don't need larger volume (think Verano), consider tires consumables, consider #8 and #9 two versions of the same item, and don't give a hoot about the name, well, more positives than negatives, maybe a car to consider.

They summarize with:
11. The bottom line
"The 2.4-liter TLX, especially, hits the perfect compromise between luxury-car refinement and sufficient driver engagement."

Ed
2007 9-5 Aero SC [60th]
2004 9-3 Aero
2005 9-5 Aero
2005 9-5 Arc
2002 9-5 Aero SW (taken out by Bambi)
1999 9-5 SE(6) SW (brief interim between the '02 and the '07)
1999 9-5 SE(4) (taken out by daughter on icy road)

->Posting last edited on Thu, 25 Sep 2014 09:01:07.

Posts in this Thread:

acura tlx thoughts?, tom, Mon, 15 Sep 2014 22:19:40
- Opel Insignia/Regal 2.0T better all around for less., Norm9-5, Sun, 15 Feb 2015 08:50:12
- TLX earns IIHS Top Safety Pick+ the Highest Rating, Tim, Thu, 6 Nov 2014 07:50:32
  - Might as well get the Accord., Norm9-5, Thu, 13 Nov 2014 18:20:08
    - ....but not the Accord Coupe., Norm9-5, Sun, 22 Feb 2015 06:03:32
    - CR says Accord V6 over Acura TLX., Norm9-5, Tue, 27 Jan 2015 08:01:02
    - That's why you drive a shitbox, Tim, Wed, 3 Dec 2014 23:01:11
      - Do you really think that, No Snaab, Fri, 12 Dec 2014 09:28:10
        LOL was in response to his lies, Tim, Mon, 29 Dec 2014 09:45:37
      - Verano same figure-8 time as Accord...sans SPORT badge., Norm9-5, Thu, 4 Dec 2014 18:03:28
        Your Compact is as Slow as someone else's Full-Size!, Tim, Thu, 11 Dec 2014 17:43:53
        Faster than any Acura.Chrysler 200 AWD $20,000 discount, Name Left Blank, Thu, 11 Dec 2014 20:51:08
        If a sedan pulling only 0.80g on skidpad is your thing, Tim, Sun, 14 Dec 2014 08:20:21
        Who drives in a circle?, Norm9-5, Sun, 14 Dec 2014 16:01:31
        Your circle jerking strawmen do, Tim, Mon, 29 Dec 2014 09:56:06
        Even the TLX forums think the 200 AWD worthy., Norm95, Mon, 29 Dec 2014 12:14:10
        So what does that have to do with Verano?, Tim, Mon, 29 Dec 2014 16:03:29
- TLX monthly sales +28% and Honda has Best October Ever, Tim, Thu, 6 Nov 2014 07:48:00
- Acura Car Sales up 40% Thanks to TLX, Tim, Thu, 2 Oct 2014 21:14:24
  - MDX Tech and Advanced didn't make $50,000+ ranks., Norm9-5, Sun, 14 Dec 2014 18:25:20
    - If you had actually bought a car over $50k you'd know, Tim, Mon, 29 Dec 2014 16:14:48
      - Acuaql recalsl MDX., Norm9-5, Thu, 11 Jun 2015 14:18:33
        ...and again., Norm9-5, Wed, 15 Jul 2015 13:49:19
      - A couple of them more than a decade ago., Norm95, Fri, 9 Jan 2015 07:41:46
        In Other Words, You Never Had, Tim, Mon, 12 Jan 2015 20:36:55
  - Only half as ugly as previous model, Mike Lynch , Fri, 10 Oct 2014 12:46:35
    - BMW's would have been displaced by Fiat/Alpha, Tim, Wed, 22 Oct 2014 22:44:14
    - Enjoy the sedan view as it migt be Acura's last., Norm9-5, Fri, 10 Oct 2014 13:38:25
      - Keep Dreaming, Tim, Thu, 23 Oct 2014 05:18:23
- Hands-on Review at Autoweek, Tim, Sun, 21 Sep 2014 06:51:51
  - Acura's Hail Mary for passenger sedans., Norm9-5, Mon, 22 Sep 2014 06:01:18
    - 98k MDX+RDX means a lot more revenue than 113k TL +TSX, Tim, Tue, 23 Sep 2014 20:02:53
      - ILX Hybrid dropped this year. nm, Norm9-5, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 20:41:34
        Tata Nano Hybrid, never introduced, Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 20:53:38
        Encore AWD can see 39 mpg on a tankful, no hybrids., Norm9-5, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 21:06:49
        1.4 liter econobox, Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 21:12:20
        Encore same figure-8 as RDX, torque vectoring what?, Norm9-5, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 21:29:03
        MDX4300lbs 26.5", RDX3800lbs 27.8", Enc3200lbs 28.2", Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 23:44:33
        RDX runs same figure-8 times, w/o SH-AWD alphabet., Norm9-5, Mon, 29 Sep 2014 05:19:17
        Do you just lie or have reading comprehension problem?, Tim, Mon, 29 Sep 2014 05:37:38
        MDX: 4300lbs 0.85g vs. Encore 3200lbs 0.58g, Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 23:16:11
        Encore ties MDX in slalom., Norm9-5, Mon, 29 Sep 2014 05:30:09
        A Motorcycle can do even better, Tim, Mon, 29 Sep 2014 05:41:05
        2015 Mustang 0.8g lateral accelearation during figure-8, Tim, Mon, 29 Sep 2014 00:05:10
        Correction: the lap times are not comparable, Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 23:49:41
      - Re: 98k MDX+RDX means a lot more revenue than 113k TL +TSX, Tim, Tue, 23 Sep 2014 20:40:12
  - That A4 already has Quattro but still got beaten, Tim, Sun, 21 Sep 2014 07:06:31
- Not European...., Mike Lynch , Fri, 19 Sep 2014 18:25:36
  - Not when it is made in Ohio!, Norm9-5, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 20:52:35
  - TLX is inexpensive at $31K, A1-turbo, Sat, 20 Sep 2014 06:06:31
    - Dual Clutch Automatic and All Wheel Steering, Tim, Sat, 20 Sep 2014 10:58:19
  - 328i is a near $40k car, Tim, Fri, 19 Sep 2014 18:40:54
    - Just today X4, Mike Lynch , Sat, 20 Sep 2014 14:17:33
      - Agree on the X6; why I got the 3row version: MDX, Tim, Sat, 20 Sep 2014 16:12:36
        If 328xi GT had DPC, Tim, Sat, 20 Sep 2014 16:34:30
        Re: If 328xi GT had DPC, Snowmobile , Mon, 22 Sep 2014 09:54:18
        Agree on both points, Tim, Tue, 23 Sep 2014 19:47:29
        MDX same. as 328ix GT MT figure-8., Norm9-5, Fri, 26 Sep 2014 05:48:08
        Re: MDX same. as 328ix GT MT figure-8., dtechakacheaptech, Fri, 26 Sep 2014 09:15:49
        fuel economy, Tim, Fri, 26 Sep 2014 07:20:03
        328ix GT is getting better mpg than MDX., Norm9-5, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 05:30:56
        What kind of MPG are you getting on your 328xi GT??, Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 08:27:21
        MDX has much better throttle steering response, Tim, Fri, 26 Sep 2014 06:57:08
        9-4X vs SRX, A1-turbo, Wed, 24 Sep 2014 09:02:17
        I was chatting with a local car guy last night..., Snowmobile , Wed, 24 Sep 2014 07:12:19
        Nice, DE , Wed, 24 Sep 2014 13:45:50
        Re: Nice, Tim, Wed, 24 Sep 2014 18:54:33
        9-4x Vtune to 335hp/400 torque vs Macan S., Norm9-5, Fri, 26 Sep 2014 05:36:22
        Re: 9-4x Vtune to 335hp/400 torque vs Macan S., Snowmobile , Fri, 26 Sep 2014 08:18:01
        150+ 9-4x Aero sold, couple on Autotrader., Norm9-5, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 05:41:05
        Is 150 greater than 150,000? to you?, Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 19:56:21
        Buick is No 4 in lux/near-lux where Saab used to play., Norm9-5, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 20:33:59
        When was a Buick 9-4X made? Buick is not a luxury brand, Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 20:41:54
        It's funny, Tim, Wed, 24 Sep 2014 19:02:03
        Funny how the MDX was based off of the Honda mini-van., Norm9-5, Fri, 26 Sep 2014 05:39:37
        Just like the original Porsche 911 off the VW Bug, Tim, Fri, 26 Sep 2014 05:47:45
        New Pilot on MDX platform, more hp., Norm9-5, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 05:11:39
        Good for Honda. Pilot EXL costs the same as MDX, Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 08:35:49
        MDX is actually thousands more, A1-turbo, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 10:26:29
        You are correct. Norm cited from a total BS site, Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 21:06:15
        The cited article says the next Pilot EXL is $42k, Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 18:44:11
        Re: It's funny, Snowmobile , Thu, 25 Sep 2014 09:13:51
        Re: It's funny, DE , Thu, 25 Sep 2014 06:44:35
        Re: I was chatting with a local car guy last night..., dtechakacheaptech, Wed, 24 Sep 2014 08:24:46
        I've driven ~3000 miles in an Acadia rental..., Snowmobile , Wed, 24 Sep 2014 08:51:44
        116 cu ft cargo vs MDX 90 cu ft., Norm9-5, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 05:54:05
        Minivan w/ 40cf less vs. Sport Couple w/ 60cf more, Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 09:17:36
        No AWD and much less towing capacity w/o cooling Od, Norm9-5, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 18:28:32
        Sienna has AWD, Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 18:49:32
        ~60 mph slalom MDX/Enclave from Edmunds., Norm9-5, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 19:42:07
        60.7mph vs. 55mph, Not Even Close, Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 19:51:30
        60 mph slalom in Enclave 6 years ago., Norm9-5, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 20:27:35
        So you want to hang your hat on a typo?, Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 20:44:16
        MDX ringer? Long term is 60, same as Lambda. nm, Norm9-5, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 21:04:48
        No, Lambda is 50mph. That 60 was typo., Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 21:14:19
        Re: MDX ringer? Long term is 60, same as Lambda. nm, Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 21:10:57
        ultimate space question for an SUV..., Snowmobile , Sun, 28 Sep 2014 16:50:36
        Acura went back to 1975 SAE for cf measurment., Norm9-5, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 18:56:57
        A better trade off than driving a GM land whale daily, Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 19:12:57
        Sienna 150cf vs. 116cf GM; SportCpe15cf vs. MDX80-90, Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 19:20:26
        Re: ultimate space question for an SUV..., Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 18:54:48
        Re: ultimate space question for an SUV..., Snowmobile , Mon, 29 Sep 2014 07:02:42
        Re: I've driven ~3000 miles in an Acadia rental..., Justin VanAbrahams , Fri, 26 Sep 2014 17:00:12
        could have easily been first generation?, Snowmobile , Sun, 28 Sep 2014 04:07:02
        My prev daily driver was the 9-3 Convertible, Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 09:05:49
- Re: Acura TLX thoughts?, No Snaab, Fri, 19 Sep 2014 09:30:24
  - Re: Acura TLX thoughts?, Brianatl , Fri, 19 Sep 2014 18:03:34
- I would get one of the V6 SH-AWD, Tim, Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:55:04
  - Road & Track highlights more negatives than positives., Norm9-5, Fri, 19 Sep 2014 06:06:51
    - R&T thinks 4cyl TLX is MORE FUN, Tim, Fri, 19 Sep 2014 17:49:10
      - TLX has rear seat pass thru, not on the Accord., Norm9-5, Sat, 20 Sep 2014 17:41:51
        You are only showing your Honda/Acura-Envy. LOL, Tim, Sat, 20 Sep 2014 18:42:49
        Verano has the same size rear pass-thru as the 9-5. nm, Norm9-5, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 05:47:59
        Why didn't you get a Verano?, Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 19:41:49
        I believe Norm has a Verano., Snowmobile , Mon, 29 Sep 2014 07:28:33
        GirlF will be driving my 04 SC after Forester lease., Norm9-5, Wed, 1 Oct 2014 04:47:42
        You are lucky to not have to deal with rust., Snowmobile , Thu, 2 Oct 2014 06:49:38
        Saab 9-5 offered all except NVH, turbo Buicks have it., Norm9-5, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 20:23:30
        Your 138hp Encore is comparable to a Rolls Royce, Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 20:50:56
    - Re: more negatives than positives?, AeroEd, Fri, 19 Sep 2014 09:47:19 <-- Viewing This Message
      - Oh, Positives, DE , Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:43:00

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