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Hands-on Review at Autoweek Posted by Tim (more from Tim) on Sun, 21 Sep 2014 06:51:51

In Reply to: acura tlx thoughts?, tom, Mon, 15 Sep 2014 22:19:40 Members do not see ads below this line. - Help Keep This Site Online - Signup

Here is a decent hands-on review, including comparison to Audi and BMW, as well as hinting at the driving difference between P-AWS vs. SH-AWD:

http://autoweek.com/article/car-reviews/2015-acura-tlx-second-drive-review

IMHO, there is a very good reason why the reviewer found the TLX V6 SH-AWD out-handling the A4: the Audi model really comparable, in terms of drive-train, to the V6 SH-AWD is the S4 with Audi "Sport Differential" option purchased, a $50k car plus the $1100 stand-alone option. Of course, the S4 would have 11.5% more power but also about 200 lbs heavier.

What I found from driving essentially the "TLX wagon" (aka the new, and much lighter and lower than previous generation, MDX) is that the SH-AWD is so good at going about its business that the driver often go through quick corners surprised by the utter lack of drama as the car literally rotates/whips around the driver, with much less body lean than otherwise would be the case in a normal car. It is the passenger who screams out aloud about the drastic lateral accelearation as I frequently go through corners without braking or slowing down at all nowadays. LOL. While it feels like power-sliding going through every fast corner on demand, and the tires chirp for good effect, I have never been able to actually break the rear end loose in the past few months. I will try harder on snow covered empty parking lot when winter gets here. LOL.

The Torque Vectoring AWD concept can only be even better in an even lower car like the TLX and S4 with Sport-Differential. TLX is perhaps 400 lbs lighter and 1.5-2 inches lower in center of gravity compared to MDX.

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acura tlx thoughts?, tom, Mon, 15 Sep 2014 22:19:40
- Opel Insignia/Regal 2.0T better all around for less., Norm9-5, Sun, 15 Feb 2015 08:50:12
- TLX earns IIHS Top Safety Pick+ the Highest Rating, Tim, Thu, 6 Nov 2014 07:50:32
  - Might as well get the Accord., Norm9-5, Thu, 13 Nov 2014 18:20:08
    - ....but not the Accord Coupe., Norm9-5, Sun, 22 Feb 2015 06:03:32
    - CR says Accord V6 over Acura TLX., Norm9-5, Tue, 27 Jan 2015 08:01:02
    - That's why you drive a shitbox, Tim, Wed, 3 Dec 2014 23:01:11
      - Do you really think that, No Snaab, Fri, 12 Dec 2014 09:28:10
        LOL was in response to his lies, Tim, Mon, 29 Dec 2014 09:45:37
      - Verano same figure-8 time as Accord...sans SPORT badge., Norm9-5, Thu, 4 Dec 2014 18:03:28
        Your Compact is as Slow as someone else's Full-Size!, Tim, Thu, 11 Dec 2014 17:43:53
        Faster than any Acura.Chrysler 200 AWD $20,000 discount, Name Left Blank, Thu, 11 Dec 2014 20:51:08
        If a sedan pulling only 0.80g on skidpad is your thing, Tim, Sun, 14 Dec 2014 08:20:21
        Who drives in a circle?, Norm9-5, Sun, 14 Dec 2014 16:01:31
        Your circle jerking strawmen do, Tim, Mon, 29 Dec 2014 09:56:06
        Even the TLX forums think the 200 AWD worthy., Norm95, Mon, 29 Dec 2014 12:14:10
        So what does that have to do with Verano?, Tim, Mon, 29 Dec 2014 16:03:29
- TLX monthly sales +28% and Honda has Best October Ever, Tim, Thu, 6 Nov 2014 07:48:00
- Acura Car Sales up 40% Thanks to TLX, Tim, Thu, 2 Oct 2014 21:14:24
  - MDX Tech and Advanced didn't make $50,000+ ranks., Norm9-5, Sun, 14 Dec 2014 18:25:20
    - If you had actually bought a car over $50k you'd know, Tim, Mon, 29 Dec 2014 16:14:48
      - Acuaql recalsl MDX., Norm9-5, Thu, 11 Jun 2015 14:18:33
        ...and again., Norm9-5, Wed, 15 Jul 2015 13:49:19
      - A couple of them more than a decade ago., Norm95, Fri, 9 Jan 2015 07:41:46
        In Other Words, You Never Had, Tim, Mon, 12 Jan 2015 20:36:55
  - Only half as ugly as previous model, Mike Lynch , Fri, 10 Oct 2014 12:46:35
    - BMW's would have been displaced by Fiat/Alpha, Tim, Wed, 22 Oct 2014 22:44:14
    - Enjoy the sedan view as it migt be Acura's last., Norm9-5, Fri, 10 Oct 2014 13:38:25
      - Keep Dreaming, Tim, Thu, 23 Oct 2014 05:18:23
- Hands-on Review at Autoweek, Tim, Sun, 21 Sep 2014 06:51:51 <-- Viewing This Message
  - Acura's Hail Mary for passenger sedans., Norm9-5, Mon, 22 Sep 2014 06:01:18
    - 98k MDX+RDX means a lot more revenue than 113k TL +TSX, Tim, Tue, 23 Sep 2014 20:02:53
      - ILX Hybrid dropped this year. nm, Norm9-5, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 20:41:34
        Tata Nano Hybrid, never introduced, Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 20:53:38
        Encore AWD can see 39 mpg on a tankful, no hybrids., Norm9-5, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 21:06:49
        1.4 liter econobox, Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 21:12:20
        Encore same figure-8 as RDX, torque vectoring what?, Norm9-5, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 21:29:03
        MDX4300lbs 26.5", RDX3800lbs 27.8", Enc3200lbs 28.2", Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 23:44:33
        RDX runs same figure-8 times, w/o SH-AWD alphabet., Norm9-5, Mon, 29 Sep 2014 05:19:17
        Do you just lie or have reading comprehension problem?, Tim, Mon, 29 Sep 2014 05:37:38
        MDX: 4300lbs 0.85g vs. Encore 3200lbs 0.58g, Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 23:16:11
        Encore ties MDX in slalom., Norm9-5, Mon, 29 Sep 2014 05:30:09
        A Motorcycle can do even better, Tim, Mon, 29 Sep 2014 05:41:05
        2015 Mustang 0.8g lateral accelearation during figure-8, Tim, Mon, 29 Sep 2014 00:05:10
        Correction: the lap times are not comparable, Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 23:49:41
      - Re: 98k MDX+RDX means a lot more revenue than 113k TL +TSX, Tim, Tue, 23 Sep 2014 20:40:12
  - That A4 already has Quattro but still got beaten, Tim, Sun, 21 Sep 2014 07:06:31
- Not European...., Mike Lynch , Fri, 19 Sep 2014 18:25:36
  - Not when it is made in Ohio!, Norm9-5, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 20:52:35
  - TLX is inexpensive at $31K, A1-turbo, Sat, 20 Sep 2014 06:06:31
    - Dual Clutch Automatic and All Wheel Steering, Tim, Sat, 20 Sep 2014 10:58:19
  - 328i is a near $40k car, Tim, Fri, 19 Sep 2014 18:40:54
    - Just today X4, Mike Lynch , Sat, 20 Sep 2014 14:17:33
      - Agree on the X6; why I got the 3row version: MDX, Tim, Sat, 20 Sep 2014 16:12:36
        If 328xi GT had DPC, Tim, Sat, 20 Sep 2014 16:34:30
        Re: If 328xi GT had DPC, Snowmobile , Mon, 22 Sep 2014 09:54:18
        Agree on both points, Tim, Tue, 23 Sep 2014 19:47:29
        MDX same. as 328ix GT MT figure-8., Norm9-5, Fri, 26 Sep 2014 05:48:08
        Re: MDX same. as 328ix GT MT figure-8., dtechakacheaptech, Fri, 26 Sep 2014 09:15:49
        fuel economy, Tim, Fri, 26 Sep 2014 07:20:03
        328ix GT is getting better mpg than MDX., Norm9-5, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 05:30:56
        What kind of MPG are you getting on your 328xi GT??, Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 08:27:21
        MDX has much better throttle steering response, Tim, Fri, 26 Sep 2014 06:57:08
        9-4X vs SRX, A1-turbo, Wed, 24 Sep 2014 09:02:17
        I was chatting with a local car guy last night..., Snowmobile , Wed, 24 Sep 2014 07:12:19
        Nice, DE , Wed, 24 Sep 2014 13:45:50
        Re: Nice, Tim, Wed, 24 Sep 2014 18:54:33
        9-4x Vtune to 335hp/400 torque vs Macan S., Norm9-5, Fri, 26 Sep 2014 05:36:22
        Re: 9-4x Vtune to 335hp/400 torque vs Macan S., Snowmobile , Fri, 26 Sep 2014 08:18:01
        150+ 9-4x Aero sold, couple on Autotrader., Norm9-5, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 05:41:05
        Is 150 greater than 150,000? to you?, Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 19:56:21
        Buick is No 4 in lux/near-lux where Saab used to play., Norm9-5, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 20:33:59
        When was a Buick 9-4X made? Buick is not a luxury brand, Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 20:41:54
        It's funny, Tim, Wed, 24 Sep 2014 19:02:03
        Funny how the MDX was based off of the Honda mini-van., Norm9-5, Fri, 26 Sep 2014 05:39:37
        Just like the original Porsche 911 off the VW Bug, Tim, Fri, 26 Sep 2014 05:47:45
        New Pilot on MDX platform, more hp., Norm9-5, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 05:11:39
        Good for Honda. Pilot EXL costs the same as MDX, Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 08:35:49
        MDX is actually thousands more, A1-turbo, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 10:26:29
        You are correct. Norm cited from a total BS site, Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 21:06:15
        The cited article says the next Pilot EXL is $42k, Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 18:44:11
        Re: It's funny, Snowmobile , Thu, 25 Sep 2014 09:13:51
        Re: It's funny, DE , Thu, 25 Sep 2014 06:44:35
        Re: I was chatting with a local car guy last night..., dtechakacheaptech, Wed, 24 Sep 2014 08:24:46
        I've driven ~3000 miles in an Acadia rental..., Snowmobile , Wed, 24 Sep 2014 08:51:44
        116 cu ft cargo vs MDX 90 cu ft., Norm9-5, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 05:54:05
        Minivan w/ 40cf less vs. Sport Couple w/ 60cf more, Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 09:17:36
        No AWD and much less towing capacity w/o cooling Od, Norm9-5, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 18:28:32
        Sienna has AWD, Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 18:49:32
        ~60 mph slalom MDX/Enclave from Edmunds., Norm9-5, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 19:42:07
        60.7mph vs. 55mph, Not Even Close, Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 19:51:30
        60 mph slalom in Enclave 6 years ago., Norm9-5, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 20:27:35
        So you want to hang your hat on a typo?, Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 20:44:16
        MDX ringer? Long term is 60, same as Lambda. nm, Norm9-5, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 21:04:48
        No, Lambda is 50mph. That 60 was typo., Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 21:14:19
        Re: MDX ringer? Long term is 60, same as Lambda. nm, Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 21:10:57
        ultimate space question for an SUV..., Snowmobile , Sun, 28 Sep 2014 16:50:36
        Acura went back to 1975 SAE for cf measurment., Norm9-5, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 18:56:57
        A better trade off than driving a GM land whale daily, Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 19:12:57
        Sienna 150cf vs. 116cf GM; SportCpe15cf vs. MDX80-90, Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 19:20:26
        Re: ultimate space question for an SUV..., Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 18:54:48
        Re: ultimate space question for an SUV..., Snowmobile , Mon, 29 Sep 2014 07:02:42
        Re: I've driven ~3000 miles in an Acadia rental..., Justin VanAbrahams , Fri, 26 Sep 2014 17:00:12
        could have easily been first generation?, Snowmobile , Sun, 28 Sep 2014 04:07:02
        My prev daily driver was the 9-3 Convertible, Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 09:05:49
- Re: Acura TLX thoughts?, No Snaab, Fri, 19 Sep 2014 09:30:24
  - Re: Acura TLX thoughts?, Brianatl , Fri, 19 Sep 2014 18:03:34
- I would get one of the V6 SH-AWD, Tim, Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:55:04
  - Road & Track highlights more negatives than positives., Norm9-5, Fri, 19 Sep 2014 06:06:51
    - R&T thinks 4cyl TLX is MORE FUN, Tim, Fri, 19 Sep 2014 17:49:10
      - TLX has rear seat pass thru, not on the Accord., Norm9-5, Sat, 20 Sep 2014 17:41:51
        You are only showing your Honda/Acura-Envy. LOL, Tim, Sat, 20 Sep 2014 18:42:49
        Verano has the same size rear pass-thru as the 9-5. nm, Norm9-5, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 05:47:59
        Why didn't you get a Verano?, Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 19:41:49
        I believe Norm has a Verano., Snowmobile , Mon, 29 Sep 2014 07:28:33
        GirlF will be driving my 04 SC after Forester lease., Norm9-5, Wed, 1 Oct 2014 04:47:42
        You are lucky to not have to deal with rust., Snowmobile , Thu, 2 Oct 2014 06:49:38
        Saab 9-5 offered all except NVH, turbo Buicks have it., Norm9-5, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 20:23:30
        Your 138hp Encore is comparable to a Rolls Royce, Tim, Sun, 28 Sep 2014 20:50:56
    - Re: more negatives than positives?, AeroEd, Fri, 19 Sep 2014 09:47:19
      - Oh, Positives, DE , Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:43:00

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