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The one a little further back is still just the rear quarter and is not going to help you visualize because it is in a slopped driveway. I may have taken another one and still have it in the camera, but I don't think so.
Without load there is space between the fender and the top of the tire.
The visual sag isn't necessarily meaningful. It depends on what is going on underneath. I'm putting together a site with more info on this issue. An idea would be to use a laser level to take a before an after load picture.
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