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Re: 9.3 SAI issue...
Posted by Anil [Email] (more from Anil) on Wed, 20 Jun 2012 14:40:47
In Reply to: I was told I'm a scammer..., Chadwick
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, Tue, 19 Jun 2012 16:07:42
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Ladies and gentlemen:
This is my first occasion on the site. Thank you for the opportunity.
I take responsibility for the intense and interesting back an forth regarding my SAI pump situation.
First, I must say, it is quite easy for a dialogue to go one way or another in forming opinions when the person affected is not present. I have been busy and did not know of this site until my friend David informed me of its existence and suggested that I may want to 'chime in'.
Here is my presentation of the experience.
I must say that the story that 'Chadwick' has presented conveniently leaves out certain points. Whether they make a difference in forming opinion is for you to consider. I will present my side and let you all accept, disagree or ponder.
The comment(s) Chadwick makes regarding my phone call (post realization of price & availability) to him are quite inaccurate and spun to serve his purpose.
I did not get angry, raise my voice or call him any of the 'names' he so disingenuously accuses me of. I did not call him a 'scammer', liar, cheater, etc. I initiated our phone conversation by saying that I felt the price charged was excessive. I also stated that I understand, from a business perspective, that I had no desire to cause him loss. I asked if he would consider re-evaluating the price more closely with that which was being charged by others. I mentioned that I discovered the matter only after my order with Chad on Monday as I was trying to locate the check valve and gasket for this project. He immediately stated that this was our understanding and he had no willingness to reconsider.
I reminded him that I took his word and trusted him in informing me that the part was 'difficult to find' and that he had '5 others' he had just sold to. It was after this dialogue that I asked that, if this was such a commodity, may I ship it back FedEx overnight at my own expense for a refund. He said no... 'the sale is final... no refunds'.
I again asked that he reconsider (no raising of voice or the names he falsely accuses me of doing) by finding a fair medium considering the 'real' and existing circumstances. It was a this point he again said, 'sorry man you own this part', and hung up on me.
Please try to keep in mind that I predicated my purchase and the need to execute the purchase on his comments. I trusted that the person I was speaking as an authority on SAAB as his website depicts. The expectation I had was that I was dealing with an entity that is reasonable, fair, and knowledgeable.
As Chadwick is a Saab expert I took his word. Call me stupid or naive. However, it certainly was not my expectation to be paying so much more for something that was available and priced for much less.
Yes, absolutely, how one interprets reasonable and fair is predicated upon our own individual codes of ethics.
Another point of information: I had not heard from him Monday regarding order confirmation and shipping tracking number. This was something I had to call him back after his hang up to ascertain. He had stated, after taking the order, that he would send it out that day and he would send me a tracking number. He did not. I had also mentioned to him that I needed the part by Wednesday and if there was any way he could have it delivered next day overnight I would request that. He mentioned that would be very expensive for him. He stated the method he was using would have it here by Wednesday.
Anyway, I had not heard from him Monday (as he stated) regarding order confirmation and shipping tracking number. This was another matter on Tuesday that I had to call him back for after his initial hang up to ascertain.
Today is Wednesday and the part is not here. I found he was using UPS land and that the part was actually dropped off after pickup time on Monday and therefore was not actually picked up by UPS until Tuesday after 6:00 PM. Again this was not our deal. Wednesday delivery was our deal. It is scheduled to arrive by day end Thursday.
It is after his unwillingness to consider a reasonable price, his dramatic hang-up, that I stated that I would warn others of the way he has dealt with me. My comments state just the facts that I encountered. It is not an indictment of his skill as a mechanic. It is simply my experience on this issue. Others have a right to read how I was dealt with just as they have a right to read of his SAAB acumen and mechanical skills.
Thank you 'Snowmobile' for your comment regarding this blog. In all humility, although I am not Internet illiterate, I must say honestly, I was not aware of such blogs as I'm not a blogger. I see now that this would have been an awesome resource for information and I will keep this in mind for future dialogue. It is quite likely that collectively you all may just have steered me out of trouble...or at least provided a lot of help as to how to resolve this SAI issue.
As I must leave town for business on Friday, once I realized that the part would not be here when promised, I purchased a SAI pump from SAAB yesterday to have my car repaired.
One more thing: I thank my friend David whom I consider one the fairest, reasonable, and ethical people I have ever met. He is also a true SAAB enthusiast and advocate. I purchased my SAAB for my daughter for its safety based on David's advice and experience. He was right! Thanks to David and the love of this machine I too have become a 'SAAB-aholic'!
Thank you to all who have 'chimed in' on this specific discussion. I appreciate your time to read this view of my side of the story.
I am open to thoughts and suggestions.
Respectfully,
Anil
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Posts in this Thread:
- I was told I'm a scammer..., Chadwick
, Tue, 19 Jun 2012 16:07:42- PA Price gouging statute is for state of emergencies!, Jas, Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:18:30
- Tallying up ... 243 responses., dmz789qqq, Fri, 22 Jun 2012 10:45:05
- the only thing I see as a problem here, Dean C, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:57:07
- Is Fenway Park gouging me?, turrbo
, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 15:11:12 - Is Eeuroparts gouging me?, dmz789qqq, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:23:26
- At least he didn't call you a fascist..., Dale, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:01:37
- 185 reply posts at this point, Gene N
, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 11:54:15 - Chad, Can I buy you a beer? My indy's similarly . . ., Devin
, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 10:50:09- I appreciate it, but it's not necessary., Chadwick
, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:47:29 - Re: Chad, Can I buy you a beer? My indy's similarly . . ., Anil, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 11:48:26
- Anil, here's a bit of advice..., ELaw
, Fri, 22 Jun 2012 05:44:27 - Re: Chad, Can I buy you a beer? My indy's similarly . . ., Son of Saab, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:26:11
- Re: Chad, Can I buy you a beer? My indy's similarly . . ., Anil, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 14:49:54
- STOP!!!!, ELaw
, Fri, 22 Jun 2012 05:35:23 - Dude....READ THIS, IT"S IMPORTANT !!!!!!, Skip, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 18:01:38
- Re: Chad, Can I buy you a beer? My indy's similarly . . ., 93Vector, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 16:30:10
- Re: Chad, Can I buy you a beer? My indy's similarly . . ., Justin VanAbrahams
, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 15:35:27 - Re: Chad, Can I buy you a beer? My indy's similarly . . ., dmz789qqq, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 15:03:20
- You know what is destroying this once great country?..., CarbonCombi, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 10:19:40
- Anil, make sure to read this thread!, dmz789qqq, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 08:14:14
- I still can't believe this ruckus is over $42.50, ToddInMA, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 07:43:49
- Re: I still can't believe this ruckus is over $42.50, Anil, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 11:52:25
- Serious question...really. Sort of., ToddInMA, Fri, 22 Jun 2012 07:58:01
- Oh I see. You wanted this rare part at Chadwick's cost, Bill Homer, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:07:29
- Re: Oh I see. You wanted this rare part at Chadwick's cost, Anil, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:16:38
- Re: Oh I see. You wanted this rare part at Chadwick's cost, HudsonValleySaabguy, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 18:52:51
- Re: Oh I see. You wanted this rare part at Chadwick's cost, Snowmobile
, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 13:31:32 - So, 25% markup is scamming?, Bill Homer, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:45:55
- Re: I still can't believe this ruckus is over $42.50, Rizzlius, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 11:54:28
- Middle button to the rescue ...., dmz789qqq, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 07:28:52
- .......................................after this ....., ponytrekker, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 18:38:44
- Re: .......................................after this ....., Son of Saab, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 19:38:28
- After you discovered the middle button?, dmz789qqq, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 19:38:05
- Re: .......................................after this ....., Son of Saab, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 19:37:58
- Re: .......................................after this ....., friendofbear
, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 18:45:30
- Is this thread available as a "Book on Tape" yet? nm, B Millar
, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 06:28:55- This thread wins for 'Most Epic Saabnet Thread Ever', Scott Paterson
, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 19:25:20 - I am kinda hoping for a coffee table book..., Justin VanAbrahams
, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:44:09 - Lawyer Dave is working out the contract details, PT, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 07:18:47
- Calling Judge Judy! Judge Judy to Saabnet please., John Myers, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 07:18:27
- some you should talk to DeBeers about gouging :) nm, Trev, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 17:42:59
- Somewhat OT, PT, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:42:10
- Re: I was told I'm a scammer..., JustinHiFi
, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 15:31:31 - Re: Price Gouging definition quote..., Anil, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 15:03:32
- Re: A definition of 'Price Gouging'..., Anil, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 14:49:34
- Re: 9.3 SAI issue..., Anil, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 14:40:47 <-- Viewing This Message
- Re: 9.3 SAI issue..., HUdsonValleySaabGuy, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 18:23:26
- LOL!!! all this for just $85! absolute pisser man! nm, sab, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 17:31:47
- Just wait until he gets a speeding ticket... nm, Simon S, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 17:53:24
- Actually Chad cried about his Speeding ticket here, Nader, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 18:31:04
- Re: Just wait until he gets a speeding ticket... nm, Anil, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 00:14:48
- Chad might have been wrong but he wasn't lying ..., dmz789qqq, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 07:17:13
- Re: Just wait until he gets a speeding ticket... nm, 93Vector, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 06:10:20
- Re: Just wait until he gets a speeding ticket... nm, HudsonValleySaabGuy, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 04:39:07
- Re: Just wait until he gets a speeding ticket... nm, Simon S, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 01:02:52
- Re: 9.3 SAI issue..., Snowmobile
, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:19:22 - Re: 9.3 SAI issue..., John Myers, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 15:12:37
- Re: 9.3 SAI issue..., davidgmills, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 21:01:45
- Re: 9.3 SAI issue..., ELaw
, Fri, 22 Jun 2012 05:17:21 - That makes him susceptible to ... fluctuations..., UpstateNY Bill, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 18:20:12
- Who da' judge here?, John Myers, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 07:06:16
- The car is NOT SITTING IDLE!!!, dmz789qqq, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 06:50:04
- Re: 9.3 SAI issue..., Chadwick
, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 21:27:33
- Re: 9.3 SAI issue..., Chadwick
, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 17:34:48
- I dont understand how any of this gouging talk applies?, Chadwick
, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 12:52:08- Wait till he needs a hood for his car, Mike, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 13:35:29
- It is utter and complete B.S., JerseySaab
, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 13:28:33- Exactly, Erik919kt, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 14:31:41
- So M.S.R.P. is now a law? who knew?, Mike, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 13:21:47
- Re: So M.S.R.P. is now a law? who knew?, davidgmills, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 21:03:56
- Someone Better Tell Saab Parts Depts., Tulsaab
, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 14:48:34 - Re: So M.S.R.P. is now a law? who knew?, Son of Saab, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 13:38:51
- Re: So M.S.R.P. is now a law? who knew?, Rita B, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 13:34:10
- So M.S.R.P. is now a law? who knew?, Mike, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 13:21:29
- You're right, Son of Saab, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 12:58:52
- Obvously you don't understand it, its nonsense. nm, Simon S, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 12:55:50
- Re: I dont understand how any of this gouging talk applies?, cryptical, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 12:55:42
- "I was wrong", Dale, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 09:21:16
- I appreciate all the feedback, Chadwick
, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 09:16:00 - Pennsylvania Price Gouging Act, davidgmills, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 08:03:15
- Re: Pennsylvania Price Gouging Act, TML
, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 19:44:11 - Re: Pennsylvania Price Gouging Act, HudsonValleySaabGuy, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 18:06:39
- Re: Pennsylvania Price Gouging Act, Simon S, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 13:30:46
- Seven Days, DE
, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 11:23:57 - Re: Pennsylvania Price Gouging Act, Son of Saab, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 10:20:34
- Is that statute lawful?, JerseySaab
, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 09:22:12 - Correct me if I'm wrong.., Son of Saab, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 09:05:06
- Re: "unconscionably excessive", Rita B, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 08:35:29
- Re: "unconscionably excessive", davidgmills, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 09:06:13
- Re: "unconscionably excessive", friendofbear
, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:37:11 - Re: "unconscionably excessive", Rita B, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 10:35:42
- What??, ELaw
, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 09:24:38- Re: What??, davidgmills, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 11:14:48
- For you business ethics majors, davidgmills, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 10:57:49
- What Anil clearly deserves..., JerseySaab
, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 12:19:16 - Re: For you business ethics majors, Snowmobile
, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 11:19:02- Re: For you business ethics majors, davidgmills, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 11:31:23
- but, a couple things..., Snowmobile
, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 11:49:00- Re: but, a couple things..., davidgmills, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 12:49:56
- think about it another way..., Snowmobile
, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 14:05:05 - Re: but, a couple things..., Snowmobile
, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 13:48:58- Re: but, a couple things..., davidgmills, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 23:04:21
- Re: but, a couple things..., friendofbear
, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 18:37:48 - Re: but, a couple things..., Simon S, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 01:08:55
- exactly..., Snowmobile
, Thu, 21 Jun 2012 06:17:07
- I should add..., Snowmobile
, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 11:53:54
- I'll give it a shot..., Son of Saab, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 11:12:23
- I am a bit baffled., Justin VanAbrahams
, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 11:35:38- Re: I am a bit baffled., davidgmills, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 12:04:53
- You REALLY need to check the definition of duress., Son of Saab, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 12:15:21
- Re: You REALLY need to check the definition of duress., davidgmills, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 12:33:13
- Re: You REALLY need to check the definition of duress., Mike Lewis, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 12:41:02
- +1. nm, Simon S, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 17:54:46
- Best post in this thread. (nm), turrbo
, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 15:33:55 - The guy's obviously never met Dave Drake., John Myers, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 14:45:27
- Re: You REALLY need to check the definition of duress., Rita B, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 12:52:59
- Re: You REALLY need to check the definition of duress., davidgmills, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 12:52:13
- Re: I'll give it a shot..., davidgmills, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 11:25:37
- Excellent!, jeff in MD really, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 08:29:29
- Re: I was told I'm a scammer..., Steve in CT, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 07:25:20
- True colors, Dale, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 06:16:54
- Re: I was told I'm a scammer..., davidgmills, Tue, 19 Jun 2012 21:23:25
- Not enough sand., John Myers, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 07:11:55
- A lawyer postulating "price gouging" is price-gouging, Reality, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 07:05:15
- Re: I was told I'm a scammer..., Craig, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 07:03:09
- Re: I was told I'm a scammer..., turbocon86, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 06:26:09
- Re: I was told I'm a scammer..., orphancarfan, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 06:00:31
- A lawyer? Really?, Son of Saab, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 05:43:27
- price gouging eh?, jeff in MD really, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 05:17:57
- you sound like a complete idiot. n/m, JerryC, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 05:14:42
- Well then...., Skip, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 05:04:54
- In the name of all things holy..., PT, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 04:43:28
- Re: I was told I'm a scammer..., Snowmobile
, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 04:07:09 - Re: I was told I'm a scammer..., Mike, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 01:51:55
- Am glad I have a 1995 SAAB sometimes...., William, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 00:29:35
- Long answer ... no, short answer instead, dmz789qqq, Tue, 19 Jun 2012 22:49:02
- Re: I was told I'm a scammer..., PGAero
, Tue, 19 Jun 2012 22:15:57
- recall package and refund the jerks money, ryan
, Tue, 19 Jun 2012 20:47:12 - Sounds like sour grapes...., Skip, Tue, 19 Jun 2012 18:43:24
- I almost joined Google+ just to ding his review..., Scott Paterson
, Tue, 19 Jun 2012 18:32:51 - Or........, MI-Roger
, Tue, 19 Jun 2012 18:09:03 - That is totally lame..., Tulsaab
, Tue, 19 Jun 2012 18:07:11 - Some people will never be happy, PT, Tue, 19 Jun 2012 17:35:35
- Re: I was told I'm a scammer..., TML
, Tue, 19 Jun 2012 16:59:42 - I knew it!, Justin VanAbrahams
, Tue, 19 Jun 2012 16:56:44 - Some people are just jerks..., dmz789qqq, Tue, 19 Jun 2012 16:51:13
- Re: I was told I'm a scammer..., pete
, Tue, 19 Jun 2012 16:49:21
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