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Re: Dear Drew Posted by perkj [Email] (more from perkj) on Tue, 14 Dec 2004 11:40:13

In Reply to: Dear Drew, Vigge, Tue, 14 Dec 2004 10:18:00 Members do not see ads below this line. - Help Keep This Site Online - Signup

I understand what you're saying and where you are coming from but can you tell me why Bosch ME7 systems see power increase with HW only upgrades and you feel T7s do not? There are for all intents and purposes the same exact thing...see my other response at the very top refering to ME7. I'm not convinced that 1 torque based system will see increase and another will not. VW/Audi have piles and piles of Data showing HW only upgrades indeed improve perfomance. I guess what I'm looking for is what make T7 different from ME7....I've read the ME-bosch technical book and compared it to the information WIS has on the T7 and they are esentially identical. Please help me understand this.

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About the custom HW parts, Vigge, Sat, 11 Dec 2004 03:41:05
- 95power, Drew in Houston, Fri, 17 Dec 2004 17:45:04
  - Re: 95power, Drew in Houston, Fri, 17 Dec 2004 18:02:38
- Re: About the custom HW parts, Drew in Houston, Fri, 17 Dec 2004 01:22:31
  - Here you go, Vigge, Sat, 18 Dec 2004 03:19:50
  - No gains at all, Drewey !, 95power, Fri, 17 Dec 2004 15:27:07
    - Do you have a memory retention problem? :), Drew in Houston, Fri, 17 Dec 2004 17:12:44
- Olli, I'm not as familiar w/t7's as I am...., zeke, Tue, 14 Dec 2004 06:00:58
- Drew, do you have an OBD logger?, Vigge, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 21:22:16
  - Re: Drew, do you have an OBD logger?, Drew in Houston, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 23:15:26
    - I have just the right file for you :), Vigge, Tue, 14 Dec 2004 02:50:26
      - Re: I have just the right file for you :), Drew in Houston, Tue, 14 Dec 2004 05:16:39
        Drew, your 234 whp plot ?, 95power, Tue, 14 Dec 2004 07:37:22
        See below....., CJH, Tue, 14 Dec 2004 07:48:56
        Re: See below....., 95power, Tue, 14 Dec 2004 11:22:57
- Why do ME7's see HP gains from HW only?, perkj, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 13:58:04
  - perkj, I haven't read the Autoweek article that you, zeke, Thu, 16 Dec 2004 20:42:54
  - link to ME7 article showing how similar it is to T7, perkj, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 14:47:03
- What?, Drew in Houston, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 00:53:56
  - Re: What?, Vigge, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 03:24:16
    - Re: What?, Drew in Houston, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 07:27:45
      - Re: What?, Vigge, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:26:06
        About the dyno plot, Vigge, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 13:11:42
        You still have not addressed your PID comment., Drew in Houston, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 12:01:08
        re: You still have not addressed your PID comment, Vigge, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 12:56:27
        Re: What?, Drew in Houston, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 11:37:20
        Drew, your 236 whp plot?, Vigge, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 22:04:15
        Re: Drew, your 236 whp plot?, Drew in Houston, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 23:21:17
        Found this but ´what about your current, Vigge, Tue, 14 Dec 2004 02:43:01
        Re: Found this but ´what about your current, Drew in Houston, Tue, 14 Dec 2004 05:24:42
        Dear Drew, Vigge, Tue, 14 Dec 2004 10:18:00
        Vigge, you offer quite a bit of insight..., CJH, Thu, 16 Dec 2004 05:17:14
        Re: Dear Drew, Drew in Houston, Tue, 14 Dec 2004 16:06:24
        Your punch line, Vigge, Wed, 15 Dec 2004 19:19:01
        Re: Your punch line, Drew in Houston, Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:09:58
        Me, upset, why?, Vigge, Thu, 16 Dec 2004 08:45:32
        Re: Dear Drew, Vigge, Tue, 14 Dec 2004 21:53:15
        Oh Vigge, Drew in Houston, Wed, 15 Dec 2004 07:59:32
        Round of applauses, Vigge, Wed, 15 Dec 2004 10:23:49
        Thank you, Drew in Houston, Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:04:25
        Re: Thank you, Vigge, Thu, 16 Dec 2004 08:30:06
        You need to pay closer attention to detail, Drew in Houston, Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:08:58
        Re: You need to pay closer attention to detail, Vigge, Thu, 16 Dec 2004 23:36:39
        Re: You need to pay closer attention to detail, Drew in Houston, Fri, 17 Dec 2004 00:15:39
        About your data, Vigge, Fri, 17 Dec 2004 06:52:00
        Re: You need to pay closer attention to detail, Drew in Houston, Fri, 17 Dec 2004 00:21:25
        Re: Thank you, Drew in Houston, Thu, 16 Dec 2004 00:57:39
        People lear, you know, Vigge, Thu, 16 Dec 2004 08:50:42
        Hey Drew, being an english major must.., zeke, Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:28:27
        Re: Hey Drew, being an english major must.., Drew in Houston, Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:34:41
        Re: Hey Drew, being an english major must.., Vigge, Wed, 15 Dec 2004 19:25:16
        Re: Hey Drew, being an english major must.., Drew in Houston, Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:19:29
        Re: Hey Drew, being an english major must.., Vigge, Thu, 16 Dec 2004 10:45:43
        ...not so fast there, perkj, Wed, 15 Dec 2004 10:19:49
        Re: ...not so fast there, Vigge, Wed, 15 Dec 2004 10:49:26
        how can you argue with actual data!?!?, perkj, Wed, 15 Dec 2004 14:55:49
        Re: how can you argue with actual data!?!?, 95power, Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:37:20
        Re: how can you argue with actual data!?!?, perkj, Thu, 16 Dec 2004 09:39:44
        correction to above...., perkj, Thu, 16 Dec 2004 09:42:04
        Aswer this question once for all, Vigge, Thu, 16 Dec 2004 10:53:14
        Re: Aswer this question once for all, perkj, Thu, 16 Dec 2004 12:15:49
        I really hope, Vigge, Thu, 16 Dec 2004 12:32:29
        Re: I really hope, perkj, Thu, 16 Dec 2004 12:49:45
        Re: Dear Drew, perkj, Tue, 14 Dec 2004 11:40:13 <-- Viewing This Message
        Bosch ME7, Vigge, Tue, 14 Dec 2004 12:05:57
        Re: Bosch ME7, perkj, Wed, 15 Dec 2004 08:35:29
        Re: Bosch ME7, Vigge, Wed, 15 Dec 2004 10:51:08
        Re: Found this but ´what about your current, 95power, Tue, 14 Dec 2004 07:30:51
        One more for the MAF, Vigge, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 12:45:43
        Okay, Drew in Houston, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 14:08:19
        another way to think about it, perkj, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 13:45:55
        can you post all dyno results w/what HW was on during, perkj, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:45:06
        I will dig up the files that I have, Vigge, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:57:26
        8 runs found, will scan tomorrow N/M, Vigge, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 11:20:57
        Here are the files, vigge, Tue, 14 Dec 2004 12:33:18
      - Re: What?, 95power, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:23:10
        Re: What?, Drew in Houston, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:57:16
        drew....what have you added?, perkj, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 11:09:07
        Re: drew....what have you added?, Drew in Houston, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 11:44:46
    - I think I understand your basic premise, please...., MI-Roger , Mon, 13 Dec 2004 04:24:44
      - Re: I'm with you MI-Roger, damien, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 13:39:07
        Re: I'm with you MI-Roger, Vigge, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 21:43:46
- You have managed to confuse me,......, MI-Roger , Sun, 12 Dec 2004 16:34:12
  - Here you go, Vigge, Sun, 12 Dec 2004 20:16:59
    - ...this is true for all engine mgmt systems, perkj, Sun, 12 Dec 2004 23:15:38
      - Re: ...this is true for all engine mgmt systems, Vigge, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 02:03:47
  - Re: You have managed to confuse me,...(addressing #2), perkj, Sun, 12 Dec 2004 17:50:07
- Correction....T7 does use both air mass AND pressure, perkj, Sun, 12 Dec 2004 16:03:27
  - Oh dear, some food for thought:, Adrian W, Tue, 14 Dec 2004 01:59:17
  - Not so fast, Vigge, Sun, 12 Dec 2004 20:04:30
    - BUT WAIT...WIS corrects you again., perkj, Sun, 12 Dec 2004 23:44:50
      - Re: BUT WAIT...WIS corrects you again., 95power, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 04:45:05
        Re: BUT WAIT...WIS corrects you again., Drew in Houston, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 07:51:46
        Re: BUT WAIT...WIS corrects you again., 95power, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:11:59
        Re: BUT WAIT...WIS corrects you again., Drew in Houston, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 11:15:01
        I'm in full agreement w/everything you stated (n/m), perkj, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 13:44:42
      - WIS is not a bible, Vigge, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 00:43:35
        agreed, but...., perkj, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 08:57:12
        I think one should have fun #1 but :-), jak , Mon, 13 Dec 2004 19:54:30
- Re: About the custom HW parts, BrianS, Sat, 11 Dec 2004 15:12:02
  - Re: About the custom HW parts, 95power, Sat, 11 Dec 2004 17:39:01
- Re: About the custom HW parts, 95power, Sat, 11 Dec 2004 10:00:59

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