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Re: About the custom HW parts
Posted by Drew in Houston [Email] (more from Drew in Houston) on Fri, 17 Dec 2004 01:22:31
In Reply to: About the custom HW parts, Vigge, Sat, 11 Dec 2004 03:41:05
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Hey Vigge, I notice we're running out of room over there. When you figure out a way to discredit the graphs I've posted, why don't you respond over here so I can see it more easily. Thanks.
Oh, and, all of those runs you're quoting? You do know they don't mean anything to the argument right?
After that, provided you don't write something totally offensive to me, I'm finished with the conversation because it's not possible to argue logically with someone who is not logical and I truly feel I've proved my point to the standards of a reasonable person. Don't forget, you've already recanted everything from your original post with the exception that you still claim that all hardware mods w/o software will cause boost surging and bad A/F--and for my car, the combination of first-hand verification that has been demonstrated (no boost surging), and posted A/F logs (clean runs) is enough proof for you. I will still gladly provide a small digital camera video of a highway run if you want, not because it's necessary, but because I said I would.
Bottom line: Although my car is not optimized in it's current condition, it IS running well, and it IS running safely. You might be of the opinion that the dyno graph is a little high in relation to the 1/4 mile performance, and you can think that, no problem, because that doesn't matter. Do you know why? Because the dyno that I ran in stock trim is the same dyno that showed increased HP after hardware-only mods. That's what a baseline is for. That's the difference between Precision and Accuracy. If it read 300 stock HP vs 320 modded HP it wouldn't matter because it is still a gain. The Accuracy might be of unacceptable tolerance, but it's likely that the Precision is still pretty good. Get it? So yeah, you're wrong again there, but my car's 1/4 performance isn't what we were talking-about anyway, is it.
Basically, you can't be argued with. And that's not a compliment to your depating prowess, or implying that you're correct about anything. It just means that you and logic are like two ships in the night.
Since you brought-up the issue of language difficulty originally (in order to insult me actually), I think that you should get someone who is fluent in English to go back over this whole string of posts with you. I'm not trying to insult you in any way, I am being sincere, and truly I wish I could write in Spanish as well as you can write in English--but even if I could, never in my wildest dreams would I ever even think about going onto a Spanish board where I didn't have 100% command of the language and it's expressions and begin to make absolute and fundamental statements about something that I didn't know at a fundamental level. But maybe I'm weird.
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Posts in this Thread:
- About the custom HW parts, Vigge, Sat, 11 Dec 2004 03:41:05
- 95power, Drew in Houston, Fri, 17 Dec 2004 17:45:04
- Re: 95power, Drew in Houston, Fri, 17 Dec 2004 18:02:38
- Re: About the custom HW parts, Drew in Houston, Fri, 17 Dec 2004 01:22:31 <-- Viewing This Message
- Olli, I'm not as familiar w/t7's as I am...., zeke, Tue, 14 Dec 2004 06:00:58
- Drew, do you have an OBD logger?, Vigge, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 21:22:16
- Why do ME7's see HP gains from HW only?, perkj, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 13:58:04
- What?, Drew in Houston, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 00:53:56
- Re: What?, Vigge, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 03:24:16
- Re: What?, Drew in Houston, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 07:27:45
- Re: What?, Vigge, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:26:06
- About the dyno plot, Vigge, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 13:11:42
- You still have not addressed your PID comment., Drew in Houston, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 12:01:08
- Re: What?, Drew in Houston, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 11:37:20
- Drew, your 236 whp plot?, Vigge, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 22:04:15
- Re: Drew, your 236 whp plot?, Drew in Houston, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 23:21:17
- Found this but ´what about your current, Vigge, Tue, 14 Dec 2004 02:43:01
- Re: Found this but ´what about your current, Drew in Houston, Tue, 14 Dec 2004 05:24:42
- Dear Drew, Vigge, Tue, 14 Dec 2004 10:18:00
- Vigge, you offer quite a bit of insight..., CJH, Thu, 16 Dec 2004 05:17:14
- Re: Dear Drew, Drew in Houston, Tue, 14 Dec 2004 16:06:24
- Your punch line, Vigge, Wed, 15 Dec 2004 19:19:01
- Re: Dear Drew, Vigge, Tue, 14 Dec 2004 21:53:15
- Oh Vigge, Drew in Houston, Wed, 15 Dec 2004 07:59:32
- Round of applauses, Vigge, Wed, 15 Dec 2004 10:23:49
- Thank you, Drew in Houston, Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:04:25
- Hey Drew, being an english major must.., zeke, Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:28:27
- Re: Dear Drew, perkj, Tue, 14 Dec 2004 11:40:13
- Re: Found this but ´what about your current, 95power, Tue, 14 Dec 2004 07:30:51
- One more for the MAF, Vigge, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 12:45:43
- can you post all dyno results w/what HW was on during, perkj, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:45:06
- Re: What?, 95power, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:23:10
- Re: What?, Drew in Houston, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:57:16
- I think I understand your basic premise, please...., MI-Roger , Mon, 13 Dec 2004 04:24:44
- You have managed to confuse me,......, MI-Roger , Sun, 12 Dec 2004 16:34:12
- Correction....T7 does use both air mass AND pressure, perkj, Sun, 12 Dec 2004 16:03:27
- Re: About the custom HW parts, BrianS, Sat, 11 Dec 2004 15:12:02
- Re: About the custom HW parts, 95power, Sat, 11 Dec 2004 10:00:59
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