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Vigge, you offer quite a bit of insight...
Posted by CJH [Email] (more from CJH) on Thu, 16 Dec 2004 05:17:14
In Reply to: Dear Drew, Vigge, Tue, 14 Dec 2004 10:18:00
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...and knowledge to this board, and I for one really appreciate it. You are part of the reason that TSN is what it is. Hearing your experiences with mods certainly provides some insight into the pursuit of speed.
If I could just make a few points here:
With respect to other forums, I believe this board to be pretty sensitive to others that don't speak english as their first language, after all, we do drive Swedish cars :) Saying that, I never once perceived that Drew in Houston was cutting on your ability to type/speak english.
Secondly, If i were to tell you that all Finns had blonde hair and blue eyes (like Mika, Kimi, and Heikki, the 3 Finns that I know), or that they all speak good english, like you do, you would probably right away think that I was full of it, pointing out several who didn't have either blonde hair, blue eyes, or speak good english. All Drew in Houston is stating, is that his car does not fall into your broad, sweeping assumption. In elementary science, we learn about how scientific theories evolve into scientific law. Once a hypothesis has one example that disproves it, it can no longer become a law. Again, your feedback is very welcome and interesting here, but I feel you may be a little off in saying that all HW mods do not provide gains in T7 cars.
I feel that both of you have made some points that are correct, it's just unfortunate that this has turned into a sparring match to determine who is more correct. I personally wish that the personal attacks are stop. You both drive Saabs, you should both team up to kick some BMW butt!
Lastly, I have ridden in Drew in Houston's car and seen his boost and A/F plots, There is nothing in there that suggests that anything bad or harmful is taking place. To your end, it is obviously not ideally matched to his ECU, and I think that he would agree with you on that. Please understand that we do not live in Finland or Sweden and do not have as easy of access to tuning shops as you do. Buying SW for each and every HW mod would be prohibitively expensive, especially since the dollar is so weak. So that leaves phasing in HW mods until one is satisfied, then getting software to match your setup. Don't worry, Drew in Houston will get to that point.
My $.03
Happy Holidays,
Chad
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Posts in this Thread:
- About the custom HW parts, Vigge, Sat, 11 Dec 2004 03:41:05
- 95power, Drew in Houston, Fri, 17 Dec 2004 17:45:04
- Re: 95power, Drew in Houston, Fri, 17 Dec 2004 18:02:38
- Re: About the custom HW parts, Drew in Houston, Fri, 17 Dec 2004 01:22:31
- Olli, I'm not as familiar w/t7's as I am...., zeke, Tue, 14 Dec 2004 06:00:58
- Drew, do you have an OBD logger?, Vigge, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 21:22:16
- Why do ME7's see HP gains from HW only?, perkj, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 13:58:04
- What?, Drew in Houston, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 00:53:56
- Re: What?, Vigge, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 03:24:16
- Re: What?, Drew in Houston, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 07:27:45
- Re: What?, Vigge, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:26:06
- About the dyno plot, Vigge, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 13:11:42
- You still have not addressed your PID comment., Drew in Houston, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 12:01:08
- Re: What?, Drew in Houston, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 11:37:20
- Drew, your 236 whp plot?, Vigge, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 22:04:15
- Re: Drew, your 236 whp plot?, Drew in Houston, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 23:21:17
- Found this but ´what about your current, Vigge, Tue, 14 Dec 2004 02:43:01
- Re: Found this but ´what about your current, Drew in Houston, Tue, 14 Dec 2004 05:24:42
- Dear Drew, Vigge, Tue, 14 Dec 2004 10:18:00
- Vigge, you offer quite a bit of insight..., CJH, Thu, 16 Dec 2004 05:17:14 <-- Viewing This Message
- Re: Dear Drew, Drew in Houston, Tue, 14 Dec 2004 16:06:24
- Your punch line, Vigge, Wed, 15 Dec 2004 19:19:01
- Re: Dear Drew, Vigge, Tue, 14 Dec 2004 21:53:15
- Oh Vigge, Drew in Houston, Wed, 15 Dec 2004 07:59:32
- Round of applauses, Vigge, Wed, 15 Dec 2004 10:23:49
- Thank you, Drew in Houston, Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:04:25
- Hey Drew, being an english major must.., zeke, Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:28:27
- Re: Dear Drew, perkj, Tue, 14 Dec 2004 11:40:13
- Re: Found this but ´what about your current, 95power, Tue, 14 Dec 2004 07:30:51
- One more for the MAF, Vigge, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 12:45:43
- can you post all dyno results w/what HW was on during, perkj, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:45:06
- Re: What?, 95power, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:23:10
- Re: What?, Drew in Houston, Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:57:16
- I think I understand your basic premise, please...., MI-Roger , Mon, 13 Dec 2004 04:24:44
- You have managed to confuse me,......, MI-Roger , Sun, 12 Dec 2004 16:34:12
- Correction....T7 does use both air mass AND pressure, perkj, Sun, 12 Dec 2004 16:03:27
- Re: About the custom HW parts, BrianS, Sat, 11 Dec 2004 15:12:02
- Re: About the custom HW parts, 95power, Sat, 11 Dec 2004 10:00:59
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