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Re: 1993 9000
Posted by Kathleen_A._Naymola (more from Kathleen_A._Naymola) on Sun, 3 Mar 2002 23:34:47
In Reply to: , Kok Chen, Sat, 17 Dec 1988 12:00:00 

I have a 1993 CS Turbo, manual trans.  I have loved this car since the day
I bought it (new, from the dealer).   It has had some - not a lot- of minor
problems, one rather large problem about 2 yrs. ago involving the ABS
system (failed pump), which wound up costing me about $3,000 in repair
bills before it was finally correctly diagnosed and fixed. I also had to
replace the ignition crank sensor - which was making the car run badly
(major hesitation).  This model also was known to have chain related
problems (mine did not) unless the owner was meticulous about oil changes.
We use synthetic oil and ultra guard filters.

 My car has 107,000 miles on the odometer and I am optimistic that it will
go another 100,000.
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Message from John Hudak <jhudakno39sdcx6spamx782sei.cmu.edu>
Hi:  
I have a 93, 9000 CS (the 5 door hatchback).  Its a love hate
relationship - but mostly love:

1. visibility out the back is terrible because the trunk is high, and
the panels that go from the trunk to the roof are wide.  Makes you check
everywhere at least twice and still your not sure if you are clear.
2. My mechanical experience has been: Replaced DI cassette 2x, head job
2x, serpentine belt and tensioner 2x, exhaust system and O2 sensor one
time.  That's been the major repair work.  
I suspect that a new heater core is in the not too distant future. 
Replaced the clutch master cylinder 2x.  Gee, there seems to be a
pattern here. The car has 75K miles.
3.  Have had a nagging problem over the last 4-5 years with the SRS
(Airbag system).  Computer keeps saying the left impact sensor is bad,
replace it with a new one..still says it bad...try a new
computer...still says its bad...and the damn components are NOT
inexpensive.  My mode of operation now is to resent the system when the
srs light comes on.  This lasts 8-9 months.  A $45 reset cures the
problem for another 9 months...cheaper than $500 for the damn computer.
4. Car drives nice, is peppy with the 2.3ltr normally aspirated engine. 
Very smooth running.
5. Suspension is stiff...so stiff (with OEM components and the Michelin
tires) that going over potholes will rattle your teeth, even on small
ones.  Changing to BFG T/A's helped both on ride quality and quietness.
Not quite smooth enough.  I compare it to a 81 Turbo that I had - which
I thought was excellent.
6. At this age of the car, I strongly suggest considering a maint.
contract for 3 yrs.  It will be expensive, but I believe that you will
pay for it one way or another.
7. The rest of the repair work has been normal maintenance (brakes, oil,
battery, etc.)
8. I have the cloth interior which I like over the leather.  It has worn
well.
9. I personally would stay away from the turbos.
10. The automatics (either turbo or normally aspirated engine) are
anemic, and from what I have heard, troublesome).
11. Car is still very solid and tight.
12. I've got a long, withwise crack on my front bumper cover and a dead
wiper motor complements of the anonymous person that backed into me in a
parking lot. The wiper motor is a very pricey replacement ($350), and
the bumper cover is $400.  
13. Driver seat is very comfortable, heated seats work well, have had no
problems.
14. Even though the rear visibility is bad, you can haul some very large
loads - very handy.
On a scale of 1-5, Id give it a 4.

John
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Message from Mary Phillpotts <fillpottsno39sdcx6spamx782net1plus.com>
I got mine used with 160,000 miles on it.  Needed a new windshield (old one
was nearly sandblasted), headlights (same thing), tire right off; later was
subject to a recall for the cover on the airbag sensor (free fix, though)
and I had to replace the ignition control module (what replaces sparkplugs
and distributor)--expensive--and the alternator bracket broke.  Sounds like
a bunch, but the car was inexpensive, the repairs and all still have not
added up to 1/2 the cost of a new one, body and interior are in great shape,
and I love driving it.  Only fault I can give the design is that I am short
and the back end is high--hard to see over.  I drive >50 miles/day.  We have
other, older Saabs well over 300,000 miles (the odometers broke) that still
run fine, so I expect another few years from the 9000.
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Message from wa1kwano39sdcx6spamx782popmail.com
I have a 1993 SAAB 9000 CSE, so maybe I can help. It presently has 150,000
miles on it. Until the first of the year it was out primary vehicle. It was
purchased used several years ago with 65,000 miles on the clock. It has had
the following items replaced: Heater Core, Radiator, DI (Direct Ignition)
cassette, alternator. The engine is still tight, burns no oil & the automatic
tranny shifts fairly crisply still. I have not included regular maintenance
items such as tires, brakes, filters, exhaust, etc. as that would have to be
done on any car. Some failures, like the CD player not working, I have not
addressed because, frankly, I don't care. On the car you are considering, I
would start the car, drive it so that it is COMPLETLY warmed up, more than 15
minutes & turn on the heat & smell for antifreeze. If so, you have a leaking
heater core, which 9000s are famous for (I also had a 1989 & replaced that
one, too). Not a cheap repair. Maybe the DPO has replaced it recently. If so,
great! If you do get the car & it is an automatic, I would strongly reccomend
draining the tranny & replacing the filter, which is quite easy & something I
have done on both the 1989 & 1993 & havent replaced a transaxle yet. Don't
know where you live, but, the 1993 seems to have better corrosion protection
than the 1989, which, in 1996 I could see through rust pinholes on the
passenger side door skin when I took the interior trim panel off. No such
corrosion on the 1993.

Hope this has been of some help, email me at wa1kwano39sdcx6spamx782arrl.net if you would
like.

Colin

1993 SAAB 9000CSE
1988 SAAB 900
2002 Nissan Maxima SE
1974 MGB
1973 BMW 3.0s 
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